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Its all becoming a massive piss take!!! 8 years 7 months ago #104948

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Absolutely Brilliant Grassy Lathlain thinking all the way...

What about the other 12 games??? Played here are they??

Anyway this is Perth thinking at its best, what your proposing is another second tier national comp, brilliant thinking send 2 WA teams to play in the VFL,,,sound familiar, we do it first and then maybe SA do it,,mmmm, history repeating itself...jezz how stupid are you..

That would relegate what ever was left of the WAFL to a 3rd tier if that, what few sponsors and media interest we have left would vaporised covering the second tier AFL, leaving WAFL with what exactly??? A Grade Ams coverage,,with a lowly stock of 3 and 4 stringer amateur players, 17 people at a suburban ground watching games, while Ch 7 broadcasts the eagles reserves v Port Melbourne.. with a small print column in the back pages with maybe a score line no one would care about.

But wait there's more,.. we forego the desperately needed Alignment Cash that secures the already fragile bottom line of the clubs...is that the free steak knives??? ffs...can you think of a more sure fired way to send clubs to the wall...

Brilliant thinking now I know the mentality of why your mob voted yes for wce and yes for Peel ..

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Its all becoming a massive piss take!!! 8 years 7 months ago #104951

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Without the AFL players and cash in the WAFL it's deader than a dodo. Country and Amateur football would overtake it for vibrancy and quality. I am the biggest fan of getting rid of the current alignment model, but a go it alone "quality" WAFL competition is ridiculous.
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Its all becoming a massive piss take!!! 8 years 7 months ago #104952

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Your on the money Larry.Wafl needs the AFL cash but there has to be some rule changes.Maby more compensation to the WAFL clubs to build stronger squads to challenge the Alignment sides. Something the top of the ladder Wafl clubs do already..
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Its all becoming a massive piss take!!! 8 years 7 months ago #104957

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The one very important thing to be considered by all in this discussing is that the licences of the two WA domiciled clubs are under the auspices of the WAFC. How is this for a novel idea? Instead of the two WA domiciled AFL clubs dictating to the WAFC, the WAFC dictate to those two clubs? How about the WAFC show some intestinal fortitude and make the determination that:

(i) the host club alignment is not in the best interests of the WAFL competition, the clubs, players, members and supporters;
(ii) the option of stand-alone reserves' teams for the two WA domiciled AFL clubs is ALSO not in the best interests of the WAFL competition, the clubsm players, members and supporters;
(iii) that a direct correlation exists between the host club alignment and the drastic drop in WAFL attendaces;
(iv) the WAFL competition, the clubs, players, members and supporters will be best served by reverting back to the previous arrangement of locally drafted remain at their WAFL club when playing in the WAFL competition and a reverse draft applies to the eastern states plaers drafted to the two WA domiciled AFL clubs.

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Its all becoming a massive piss take!!! 8 years 7 months ago #104963

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Grassy wrote: Can't see your latest post for some reason Chaddy and it was about an Hour ago.

Do yourself a Favour though and how you go,googling this on AdelaideNow -

SANFL Match Day Crowds Slump.

And see how familiar the Spin is from the Top.Ratings Good,online readership good,....

Christ,I thought we had it bad.It's worse!

Glenelg are $3Million in Debt and are struggling to stay afloat.


Sanfl crowds are still a long way ahead of us.I thought it was reported wafl crowds this year as 149,00.Sanfl play 18 games over 22 rounds.at round 17 they already had 167,00.Adelaide crows sanfl side getting some decent crowds as well.I knew Glenelg had financial.Obviously being the Perth of the Sanfl competition and always underachieving could also have something to do with it.Trust me the Sanfl has it better.Smaller population and can get more people to the footy then a lot bigger population in the west.
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Its all becoming a massive piss take!!! 8 years 7 months ago #104964

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Two things are virtually carved in granite. The AFL players will play in one team and secondly it will be in the WAFL. Take that as your starting point and work from there to make the best of it for all the clubs.
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Its all becoming a massive piss take!!! 8 years 7 months ago #104967

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Larry Bird wrote: Two things are virtually carved in granite. The AFL players will play in one team and secondly it will be in the WAFL. Take that as your starting point and work from there to make the best of it for all the clubs.


NO I won't accept that at all. At the moment it is the tail wagging the dog. When we actually get some WAFC with a backbone and start DICTATING to the WA domiciled AFL clubs that THEY HAVE THE LICENCE then there is a future for the WAFL and THAT is the BRIEF and raison d'etre for the WAFC.

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Its all becoming a massive piss take!!! 8 years 7 months ago #104972

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Admire the passion boys but we are nobodies in the scheme of things. These two points are not even up for debate amongst the decision makers. I'm led to believe the amount of funding for the WAFL clubs may reduce also.

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Its all becoming a massive piss take!!! 8 years 7 months ago #104974

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Have a look at this grassy. You can home in on the negatives but it is not all doom and gloom in the sanfl. membership up and certain clubs attendences on the up as well

SANFL crowds have slumped 16 per cent since the introduction of AFL reserves sides but league officials say strong television ratings and a growing online following indicate their “product is very strong”.

Figures show the league average attendance for the opening 13 rounds this season was 2486, compared with 2942 at the same stage in 2013 — the final season before Adelaide and Port Adelaide reserves entered the competition.

This season’s mark is the lowest since Port joined the AFL in 1997, and down 1000 fans a game on the 13-round average of 3612 in 2001.
Should we be worried by the slump in SANFL crowds?
Absolutely, it needs addressing. We need more supporters at matches
No, crowds are just one of of measuring success - as long as club membership is OK
SANFL general manager Adam Kelly said crowds were only one way to measure success of the competition.
He said television ratings were healthy, online traffic was growing and club membership numbers were on the up.
But crowds have fallen again in 2016 and a fortnight ago just 938 people — the lowest recorded crowd in SANFL history — watched South Adelaide celebrate its 140th anniversary against Port Adelaide at Noarlunga.
The game was broadcast live on Channel Seven.
“(The) game between South and Port drew an average (television) audience of in excess of 39,000,” Kelly said.
“One in three people watching free-to-air TV were watching SANFL — and that tells us that the product is very strong.
“We’ve got almost 55,000 people using our app which is about 50 per cent more than last year and our social media audience is well above comparable competitions in other states.”
Diehard supporters: Woodville-West Torrens is bucking the trend of falling SANFL crowds. Pictured are the Craig family - Archer, Neypier, Shellee and Ian at Woodville Oval. Picture: Calum Robertson
Despite the crowd figures suggesting the opposite, he said the addition of the AFL sides in 2014 had added interest to the competition.
“Some of our best attendances and television ratings have involved those teams,” Kelly said.
Crowds this season are down 5 per cent from 12 months ago, when an average of 2614 people attended games.
But Kelly pointed to Central District (up 29.9 per cent from 2082 to 2705) and Woodville-West Torrens (up 15.4 per cent from 2132 to 2461) recording increased crowds this year compared with last.
Bucking the trend: Woodville-West Torrens supporter Kyle Dorian with son Caden at Woodville Oval. Picture: Calum Robertson
Overall only four SANFL games have pulled a crowd of more than 4000 people this season, the same as 2015, but well down on 14 in the opening 13 rounds of 2012.
Many disaffected fans have blamed the two AFL alignments, a lack of continuity in fixtures — teams have five weekends off in a 23-week minor round — and rule changes for the declining interest.
Kelly defended the rule changes — which include a free being paid against the last player to kick or handball the ball before it went out of bounds — and said this season’s competition had been attractive viewing.
“Scoring over the year has increased by 10 per cent and stoppages are down,” he said.

He said the SANFL would work with clubs to market matches.

“That includes looking at the numbers of byes in the season and when our games are scheduled.”
Kelly said attendances were just part of clubs’ revenue streams and payments from the sale of Football Park, which start in October, would help long-term viability.

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Its all becoming a massive piss take!!! 8 years 7 months ago #104984

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Mr AFL wrote: Who much per year would the WAFC put into Peel?


There was at least a $700,000.00 one off payment to clear the debt they had accumulated, in addition with all the other payments over the years plus what it cost to build the new stand. Must be around 3 Million.

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