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Tiger of old wrote: And why can’t Optus host more than one or two games or whatever it is on the one day? The surface looks pristine to me.

Don't know. Another bizzare ruling from VenuesWest. Limitation on amount of games and $100k fee.

I think long term the WACA is a better bet. It can easily cover the crowd number, especially if West Perth makes a grand final. There numbers are outmatched by amateur league games.

Durtle wrote:

Tiger of old wrote: And why can’t Optus host more than one or two games or whatever it is on the one day? The surface looks pristine to me.

Don't know. Another bizzare ruling from VenuesWest. Limitation on amount of games and $100k fee.

I think long term the WACA is a better bet. It can easily cover the crowd number, especially if West Perth makes a grand final. There numbers are outmatched by amateur league games.

It's quite simple.
The new stadium does not really want Wafl matches played there! It's been that way since the bloody joint opened.
That is why quite a few strings had to be pulled in holding the Grand Final there last season.
I'm led to believe weddings, conferences, expo's etcetera are all very welcome. Sadly Wafl matches are not encouraged there.

It all seems relative then. VenuesWest owns Optus Stadium and Joondalup.

West Perth, a WAFL club, has a beef with VenuesWest. In turn VenuesWest turns its back against WAFL at Optus Stadium.

Durtle wrote: It all seems relative then. VenuesWest owns Optus Stadium and Joondalup.

West Perth, a WAFL club, has a beef with VenuesWest. In turn VenuesWest turns its back against WAFL at Optus Stadium.

I thought Optus Stadium was managed by some crowd from Sydney?

DD wrote:

Durtle wrote: It all seems relative then. VenuesWest owns Optus Stadium and Joondalup.

West Perth, a WAFL club, has a beef with VenuesWest. In turn VenuesWest turns its back against WAFL at Optus Stadium.

I thought Optus Stadium was managed by some crowd from Sydney?

Venues Live is the Optus Stadium operator, also operates ANZ stadium and BankWest Stadium in NSW.

Venueslive operates it. They do the day to day running of the stadium and catering on the days.

VenuesWest has a huge and deciding say for major events such as sports and music concerts, numbers allowed etc.

VenuesWest owns Optus Stadium.

Durtle wrote: Venueslive operates it. They do the day to day running of the stadium and catering on the days.

VenuesWest has a huge and deciding say for major events such as sports and music concerts, numbers allowed etc.

VenuesWest owns Optus Stadium.

You make it sound like Venues West is some private company. We (the state) own Optus Stadium thank you very much because WE paid for it. The AFL and the Federal government didn’t kick in a cent

No way Venueslive is some catering and ground maintenance company that operates from the east. We’ve got huge catering companies like Spotless and Compass to do that stuff. I recall the controversy at the time why a Sydney company was awarded the management rights. It was because of their experience with running big events and their network of connections and experience were the reasons given by government.

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La Hincha wrote: 20,000 people at 20 dollars per ticket (a fair price) plus corporate boxes goes close to half a million dollars take in one day.

How can that not be enough to cover associated costs! If it isn't .... then the deal is a joke and the WAFL are getting ******

Gate receipts of about half a million dollars is a fair and conservative estimate - could be more. Funny that Bazza crys poor but often posts that he is more than happy to have people turned away from the GF to fulfill his fantasy of having it at the WACA. What sort of business acumen is that?

Let me tell you something about business acumen, last year the WAFL lost 120,000 on the GF at OPTUS, what sort of numpty actually believes that every single person attending actually pays for a ticket, of the 18,000 there you would be lucky of 50% actually paid full price or paid at all, a huge portion are officials, friends and family, sponsors and associated free loaders that are given free tickets, then there's the kids pensioners that make up another big portion. So the ticket revenue is minimal to covering costs. This year Optus have dropped the ground fees, but it would still be putting $100K in the furnace.

You seem pretty keen to hold it at Optus, how about you chip in the $100k to burn.

Ted Nugent wrote: I agree with SS provided it really is just a one-off. It would be nice if someone from the WAFC could come out and confirm that in a normal season, the GF will be played at Optus. The concern is that, whatever happens, the WAFC will declare the GF to be a tremendous success, that the smaller venue made for a better atmosphere, or whatever they need to say to justify it and repeat it. Generally speaking, I certainly agree that having the GF at a suburban ground diminishes the WAFL, but I can live with if it is limited to this year only.

I would think its a stop gap, clearly as posted many times this is not a normal year, all sorts of weird things have happened, hopefully we can find a long term venue that is better suited to WAFL Finals, that will probably be the WACA, it wont be Optus the viability is just not there. Optus was off the table weeks ago, and the Fremantle Oval was the best choice from the limited options on the table.

The VFL dont play their GF at the MCG, its Princess Park for all the same reasons.

Bazza the VFL never gets 10,000 to their GF either let alone 25,000.
The attendances for the VFL are only a couple of hundred a match similar to amateur games here.