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Bazza wrote:

Senior Seagull wrote:

Bazza wrote:

Beasley Hutton wrote:

Bazza wrote:

ArkRoyal wrote: Baz: were they going to build something n Inglewood at some point?

Yep - They had a couple of plans, one was to acquire Perth Oval and make that WAFL HQ , I think Bayswater Oval was also talked about.

Instead they built the 3 tier in 1969 and then took out a massive loan for the 2 tier, both were cheap and poor quality, it also was done when interest rates ran off track and by 89 the debt became unsustainable, all on land they never owned.

I am not sure about the 3 Tier Stand but have read the 2 Tier Stand was built by Vince Yovich's building construction company, Vince was the WAFL President in the early 1980s although I think when the decision was made to build the 2 Tier Stand (circa 79/80) Jim Davies was the President at that time.

Both were crap quality, the 2 tier slightly more modern, but built to a budget, the mere fact it was dropped to 2 tiers and then the second tier was pretty shallow depth wise anyway speaks volumes of the tight arses at the time. No doubt ripped off the price as well.

I think the 3 tier stand was finished around 1969, the plan being that it would be on the wing of a north/south realigned subi oval. The WANFL had purchased the properties between the oval and the rail line to the north, a new station was to built right at the northern end and later stages would see the three tiers carried all around for a 60k + capacity ....... that was the vision anyway but was never to be, maybe they couldn't source enough of those "fabulous" yellow plastic tractor seats to do the whole ground!!!!

Yep 1969 and you are right, the whole oval was supposed to be re aligned - but I think you mean East - West , The 3 tier being on the wing, and eventually carried all the way around, never happened - all to hard for all the parties concerned, money dried up as well.

Instead they ended up with a patchwork of cheap disjointed structures.

Baz, SS has got it right as most ovals in the past were NNE to SSW to suit cricket and the setting sun.
as stated the WANFL had the properties next to the rail line to suit the re-alignment but were sold off to cover debts.

I suppose that's the difference in mind set between Australians and Americans. When they go to build something it gets done big the first time. Atlanta, Georgia which has a quarter of the population of Perth has a 7 lane freeway running thru its guts!

Maybe the football leadership in this state in the '70's were too comfortable sitting on the $1 a year peppercorn rent on Subiaco.

Yeah I know the houses on the railway line were purchased as part of the plan to realign the oval. With the goals being moved to the railway and Roberts road ends.

There is a real opportunity coming up for the WAFL if they play their cards right and dare to be different from that other Vic centric comp.

The style and standard of the afl is really on the nose at the moment with the greater supporters, past players etc bemoaning the boring, poorly skilled, low scoring snoozefests that are currently being produced.

The WAFL coaches should not fall for the same trap and should encourage, play a far more entertaining attractive brand of footy by going back to proper starting positions for players, no tagging, no mass numbers of players around the ball, move the ball fast and forward no going backwards etc.

This is probably a one off opportunity with crowd numbers restricted at afl games in 2020 for us the WAFL (when we finally get our season actually started that is) to show the greater footy watching public that there is an alternative to the over paid, over coached, over saturated Vicco comp!

Lets not stuff this chance up WAFL!

Stand the Test wrote:

Beasley Hutton wrote: There is a real opportunity coming up for the WAFL if they play their cards right and dare to be different from that other Vic centric comp.

The style and standard of the afl is really on the nose at the moment with the greater supporters, past players etc bemoaning the boring, poorly skilled, low scoring snoozefests that are currently being produced.

The WAFL coaches should not fall for the same trap and should encourage, play a far more entertaining attractive brand of footy by going back to proper starting positions for players, no tagging, no mass numbers of players around the ball, move the ball fast and forward no going backwards etc.

This is probably a one off opportunity with crowd numbers restricted at afl games in 2020 for us the WAFL (when we finally get our season actually started that is) to show the greater footy watching public that there is an alternative to the over paid, over coached, over saturated Vicco comp!

Lets not stuff this chance up WAFL!

Agree 100%. Hear hear.

Presidents should come out with a joint statement of commitment to excellent footy.

Yes, I don't want to hear from any coach.

Unfortunately that is unlikely to happen while the current WAFC exists, they are too busy crawling up the VFL's clacker to even think about the WAFL and are so busy at the moment trying to cover up the wages issue. I heard the boys on ABC sportstalk lambasting the WAFC for concentrating om appointing private investigators to find out how the leak occurred. FMD, they even have no idea how to handle a PR crisis. PR 101 says face the crisis admit the problems and get on with the job, not give the media more ammo to shoot you down. Surely the WAFC have more pressing issues, especially financial issues than throwing money away on high paid private detectives!!

Beasley Hutton wrote: There is a real opportunity coming up for the WAFL if they play their cards right and dare to be different from that other Vic centric comp.

The style and standard of the afl is really on the nose at the moment with the greater supporters, past players etc bemoaning the boring, poorly skilled, low scoring snoozefests that are currently being produced.

The WAFL coaches should not fall for the same trap and should encourage, play a far more entertaining attractive brand of footy by going back to proper starting positions for players, no tagging, no mass numbers of players around the ball, move the ball fast and forward no going backwards etc.

This is probably a one off opportunity with crowd numbers restricted at afl games in 2020 for us the WAFL (when we finally get our season actually started that is) to show the greater footy watching public that there is an alternative to the over paid, over coached, over saturated Vicco comp!

Lets not stuff this chance up WAFL!

BH, are you suggesting a different brand of football at WAFL level?

Much like the difference between college football and the NFL.

Personally I would like to see some characters back in footy, those that can actually play the game not some athlete that can run all day.
Find the kids who can kick a hundred goals in a season or those who can kick more than 45 metres.
The reason I loved footy is because it suited all shapes and sizes for those who had some talents, not the clones we cop today.

It would take some imagination I suppose and someone prepared to bite the bullet.
It would mean getting rid of Peel and the Eagles seconds.
Could try drawing a line down the middle from wing to wing and those playing as forwards and defenders wear a high viz stripe on their jumpers are not allowed past the line as in netball.
Have an exclusion zone around every ball up of say 10 metres.
Only one backward kick allowed per play till there is a handover.
Have a look at the 9 pointer goal to encourage those who can roost a ball more than 50 metres.

Probably not quite to those extremes Devon.
Just encourage and reward more attacking (read scoring) football and to do that you need forwards stationed regularly inside their own 50 not all up around the ball in their defence or midfield.
The defenders will then follow their forward opponent into that position.
It helps the midfielders then to move the ball quicker when players have room to run and carry rather than what we currently witness with 36 players all congested together around the ball and where tackling, smothers, scragging, stacks on the mill become the norm producing regular and consistent congestion after congestion.
But for any of this to happen it will require ALL WAFL coaches to be on board to bring this standard of football back to reality, hopefully the lure of bonus points for scoring more might encourage and produce it to have the desired effect?!

Bonus points is an interesting concept that I like BH. Maybe an extra premiership point if you score over 60 points in a game and two premiership points for over 100. That way a winning team kicking more than 100 points would get 6 premiership points and it would also allow a losing side to get premiership points as well. In a shortened season like this and also in a regular year, teams fighting for a spot in the four would go on all out attack which could make for very interesting viewing.

how about changing the way the premiership points are calculated. 4 premiership points for a win + bonus premiership points if you score more than 100 points (say +2 if you score more than 100 and win, and +1 if you score more than a 100 but lose). Adds an incentive rather than tell coaches the style.

How about removing the nomination of ruckman rule, balling up the ball more quickly and reducing interchange to twenty or even less