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Ark ...Paul Ryan has put some alternatives to President Trump on Border Security without the Mexican wall.Are you saying he can bypass Congress on the Mexican wall.

gtrx: any new controls on the border would be welcome, I think. It needs to go through Congress. Ryan needs to remember that the electorate votted for Trump's agenda not the Republican establishment.

The trouble with a lot of Americans on the border is that they are incoherent on the issue; most are uncomfortable about the situation, but seem to have almost a politically correct aversion to finishing the bloody wall.

How else are you going to deter people, cut down illegal immigration which forces down wages, and save lives of some migrants and policemen? The other question I would ask Americans whom are weak, is this: if your so worried about having a proper fence, why don't you pull down the fence where it is already built?

cheers gtr

Bazza: thanks for the correction on the US election of 1929.

A bit of light hearted satire if you feel like a laugh.

The great fence debate: a wee bit more more than trump granstanding

In 2006 Congress, passed the 'Secure Fence Act'.
The bill passed the Senate 80 votes to 19 votes
the yes votes included 26 Democrats and Hillary Clinton's vote
the act had previouslly passed the House of R by 283 votes to 138 votes
G W Bush signed it into law.

sources: govtrack.us;
congress.gov -- legislation section
world socialist web site

The socialist website was quite an interesting one because, alongside demanding equal rights for the 12 million illegal aliens in America, it stressed the significance of Clinton's vote. She would likely be running for President, the article argued, and such a vote would harm the Democrat Party's cause.

So Trump already back tracking on Obamacare , indicting Clinton and the wall I still think Trump is the lesser of two evils elected but fmd the good ole Uncle Sam is doomed.

The meeting at the White House between the outgoing and incoming President didn't go to protocall.According to the US press neither wanted to shake hands.And there suppose to be a group photo with both the Presidents familys.President Obama refused to be in the photo.They had an argument over Obama Care.

I have come to the conclusion that large parts of the American population is having a nervous breakdown. In the German press there has been lots of interviews with Americans whom can't cope with the 'shock' of Trump's victory, and 'do not know what to tell their children'.

I just wish Abbott would shut up and stop providing commentary on every issue. For a lowly backbencher he sure makes lots of noise.

Good comment Mike.I dont see the Abbot connection or Hanson connection with Trump.Trumps smart and Hanson dumb..Been outsmarted in the Senate by government on allmost every piece of legislation...Abbot doesnt support Australian jobs remember the GM Bosses where sent a youtube clip of what Abbot said about Holden in parliment.Two days later GM announced the closure of Holden
A few more from Mr Abbot he promised the Australian submarine contract to the Japanese Prime Minister.Also when he was PM he accused opponents of the original draft of the Chinese/ Australia free trade agrement of racism and Zeno phobia..Under that agreement if a Chinese company put over 15% of the money into a infastructure project.They where allowed to use there own $3 an hour workers in Australia.Of coarse the Senate said no to that.