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Beasley Hutton wrote:

Cardy wrote: Looking at the Stats the imports didnt make much of a difference
Selwood was brilliant but he was against SF a couple of weeks a go and SF beat them.

What happened to Dayle Garlett.. 7 disposals. Was he tagged or injured?

www.wafl.com.au/games/view/9708

SwanDog if you wanted to see some shocking umpiring you should of been at CLA oval Unfortunately that wont change and we have to get used to it.

No excuses really in that department.

EP will lose to CLA next week that is assured. Webby will have his guys firing and that is frightning.

So back to a CLA V WP Finals and it will be a good game as CLA will have something to prove after yesterdays loss. Their mindset will be different as it is a GF and they have plenty of experience in that area. Its a worry

Have a good off season

Without doubt this is the dumbest post I have seen in 11 years on these footy forums and that is saying something let me tell ya!!
To suggest the Eagles players "after looking at the stats didnt make much of a difference" makes you wonder what actually does make a difference or what stats were looked at certainly not yesterdays game?

Cripps 5 goals & 25 disposals
Lycett 4 goals & 29 hit outs
Selwood 32 disposals & 8 ducking free kicks
Morton 26 disposals
Wilson 13 disposals & blanketed an injured Geappen

Added to that Garlett kicked 3 goals anchored from the goal square from his 7 disposals as that is the role he has been told to play for the team.
A mind boggling moronic post!

no eagles players apparently played for the ducks.

Beasley Hutton wrote:

mikeh wrote:

ShinyDuck wrote:

mikeh wrote:
I will write a post later in the week about Swans season, I will able to be more objective in a few days when the disappointment has subsided. Needless to say today felt like a microcosm of the whole season - sometimes competitive and tough (1st Quarter into the breeze), sometimes brilliant (2nd quarter 7 goals), sometimes liable to switch off (3rd Quarter) and sometimes plain disinterested( 4th quarter).

Good Mike I will look forward to it.

Be sure to include the following:

Our off field / season indiscretions that included the Northbridge bashings we were involved with and the hit and run controversy.

Our salary cap strife

Our childish "West Coast Eagles" scoreboard that would have served no purpose other than to inspire the opposition if they bothered to look at it.

The ridiculous "Ash Hansen" to play that fooled nobody, (especially at East Perth). The only ones fooled were the 22 at our club that were wondering "Which one of us will miss out?"

The fair weathered fans of ours that hemorrhaged out of the ground when we were four goals behind.

and finally if some AFL team is to take on the Garlett project next year we can remember him for his last piece of cowardice before the siren when beaten by East Perth's Fred Clutterbuck he tried to shove him into the fence...

Nah. I might concentrate on the on field stuff. You seem to be more on the "inner sanctum" than I am. I will say however that many people have come on here and stated their opinions on some of the issues you mentioned above and that is fine. I have done the same myself, particularly with the scoreboard and Hansen issue. What gets me confused is when some state their opinions as facts and what they really are just assumptions, inneudo or a repeating a whisper that they have heard around the club and there is no real factual basis to what they are saying. That's why I generally stay away from this stuff because I am just a member of the club and I don't have that inside information.

Shiny Duck= "Le Victim" I think Mike!

Ooops!

MarkOlsen wrote: East Perth got more than the luck of the draw this year, they changed the rules to help you and gave you Cripps and Morton instead of them going back to their original clubs..they then had the nerve to try and get Bennell off Swans but you will have him next year and are trying to get the rules changed to get Selwood as well..
disgrace of a club and its a pity to see them getting rewarded but Bronte decided it was the only way they could win a flag so good luck to him i suppose..

yawn.boo hoo.get a siren.

chaddy22 wrote:

Freezin wrote:

Beasley Hutton wrote: On yesterdays game I was surprised we didnt end up playing Rogers (unless he was injured) as his strong body was what we needed in the heat of battle.
Twomey, Ames, Notte, Davis & Embley were standouts for us while the others tried hard but where overwhelmed in the end and also having Geappen get injured in the 1st qtr threw our forward structure completely out of whack.
On a side note I was interested to see Nic Nat & Ashton Hams walking across the ground at 3 qtr time & walk straight past the WCEP huddle to head to the Swans huddle.
I am sure Swan 42 would have liked seeing Nic Nat show his true colours not his employers!!

BH, I bet NN won't be doing that next year..bit of difference ignoring 5 WCE boys in a huddle compared to 15 next year!!

as for Hams, well he will probably be one of the fella's, NN et al from WCE will be walking straight past next year.....especially if he isn't in that EP huddle.......

Good to see Cripps show his ability with his 5 goals on Sun......not too sure where Markie is coming from with his comment 'Cripps shouldn't be playing for EP'....WCE are his employers, not EFFC nor the WAFL.....strange for a SD fan to be whinging about something like that.....shouldn't the EF fans be the ones whinging that Cripps should of been playing for EF in 2014?....especially since EF missed by about 4 pts of being in 3rd spot.....naaagh that's life.....good to see Jamie put SD season to bed.

i agree with you freezin'.effc should be the ones who are whinging'.as for lycett with three of our afl players moving to peel lycett and wilson had to come to the royals so i dont know what olsen is on about.if the eagles had picked up a slew of eastern states under 18 players like the dockers did i am not sure whether they would have moved cripps and wellingham &morton over to us straight away.in the end everyone team has had some afl players.it seems that the swannie supporters have been the biggest cry baby's all year.if not the alignment it is the umpires.

Chaddy, if you look back at my serious post on this thread, I gave East Perth the credit for being by far the better team on the day. However BH was refuting the point made by a West Perth supporter who wasn't even at the ground, that the Eagles players did not have a significant impact on the game and as you and I know that is garbage as per the stats quoted. Having said that, you are correct that Swans did have Embley who did play very well and Bennell who was pretty ordinary like a lot of his mates.

As well as this many of the East Perth based players were very impressive and your midfield killed us. I have no doubt that yesterdays game was a genuine contest between two WAFL teams and you guys won out decisively.

Maybe many of the people you dismiss as cry babys and whingers are merely expressing the frustration and fear that the WAFL that they have known and loved for a long time will be a totally compromised league from 2014 onwards

Well said Mike that was exactly the point I was making. And chaddy I have said in a previous post we were outplayed yesterday.

mikeh wrote:

chaddy22 wrote:

Freezin wrote:

Beasley Hutton wrote: On yesterdays game I was surprised we didnt end up playing Rogers (unless he was injured) as his strong body was what we needed in the heat of battle.
Twomey, Ames, Notte, Davis & Embley were standouts for us while the others tried hard but where overwhelmed in the end and also having Geappen get injured in the 1st qtr threw our forward structure completely out of whack.
On a side note I was interested to see Nic Nat & Ashton Hams walking across the ground at 3 qtr time & walk straight past the WCEP huddle to head to the Swans huddle.
I am sure Swan 42 would have liked seeing Nic Nat show his true colours not his employers!!

BH, I bet NN won't be doing that next year..bit of difference ignoring 5 WCE boys in a huddle compared to 15 next year!!

as for Hams, well he will probably be one of the fella's, NN et al from WCE will be walking straight past next year.....especially if he isn't in that EP huddle.......

Good to see Cripps show his ability with his 5 goals on Sun......not too sure where Markie is coming from with his comment 'Cripps shouldn't be playing for EP'....WCE are his employers, not EFFC nor the WAFL.....strange for a SD fan to be whinging about something like that.....shouldn't the EF fans be the ones whinging that Cripps should of been playing for EF in 2014?....especially since EF missed by about 4 pts of being in 3rd spot.....naaagh that's life.....good to see Jamie put SD season to bed.

i agree with you freezin'.effc should be the ones who are whinging'.as for lycett with three of our afl players moving to peel lycett and wilson had to come to the royals so i dont know what olsen is on about.if the eagles had picked up a slew of eastern states under 18 players like the dockers did i am not sure whether they would have moved cripps and wellingham &morton over to us straight away.in the end everyone team has had some afl players.it seems that the swannie supporters have been the biggest cry baby's all year.if not the alignment it is the umpires.

Chaddy, if you look back at my serious post on this thread, I gave East Perth the credit for being by far the better team on the day. However BH was refuting the point made by a West Perth supporter who wasn't even at the ground, that the Eagles players did not have a significant impact on the game and as you and I know that is garbage as per the stats quoted. Having said that, you are correct that Swans did have Embley who did play very well and Bennell who was pretty ordinary like a lot of his mates.

As well as this many of the East Perth based players were very impressive and your midfield killed us. I have no doubt that yesterdays game was a genuine contest between two WAFL teams and you guys won out decisively.

Maybe many of the people you dismiss as cry babys and whingers are merely expressing the frustration and fear that the WAFL that they have known and loved for a long time will be a totally compromised league from 2014 onwards

not having a go at you mikeh.i find you fair but talking about afl players is a mute point.last year all four of our afl lsted players were either injured or taken as emergencies by the dockers and we got a floggin'.you cannot control who you have playing in the finals.swans had 4 that qualified we all know the newman story and maybe unlucky that lachie neale forced his way into the dockers and missed your finals team.if we had lost last week east freo would have been playing finals and bolstered with at least six afl listed players.they just couldn't win enough games thru the year to make the finals.everyone can moan about the influence of afl players but in the end it is no good getting players qualified if you don't make the finals.if the eagles had not fallen over after the good win over essendon and made the finals we wouldn't have had lycett or cripps.i still remember 1996 were chris lewis lost form and don pyke was injured towards the end of the year and both qualified to play in the tigers premiership team.in any other year it wouldn't have happened.sometimes you have to take the good with the bad.who knows next week silvagni may drop back and play for the tigers.

MarkOlsen wrote: East Perth got more than the luck of the draw this year, they changed the rules to help you and gave you Cripps and Morton instead of them going back to their original clubs..they then had the nerve to try and get Bennell off Swans but you will have him next year and are trying to get the rules changed to get Selwood as well..
disgrace of a club and its a pity to see them getting rewarded but Bronte decided it was the only way they could win a flag so good luck to him i suppose..

selective memory mark.i think you will find that several years ago they changed the rules that a team that made the four would not be allocated a afl player and that was the year we just made the four.the next year when we were languishing down the bottom of the table halfway thru the year and the dockers wanted to move a ruckman from west perth (connolly) because he couldn't get a league game because he was getting squeezed out of the side by seaby,warnock and keunan wafc held to that rule and moved him to perth instead.then blow me down two years ago west perth made the four and they got mellington.so don't try to make it into a conspiracy theory.we don't make the rules.by the way are you sure bennell will be on the list next year.i would rather have fraser playing for us.

MarkOlsen wrote: East Perth got more than the luck of the draw this year, they changed the rules to help you and gave you Cripps and Morton instead of them going back to their original clubs..they then had the nerve to try and get Bennell off Swans but you will have him next year and are trying to get the rules changed to get Selwood as well..
disgrace of a club and its a pity to see them getting rewarded but Bronte decided it was the only way they could win a flag so good luck to him i suppose..

it is not often you are right but you are wrong again re adam selwood.
this is a quote from wafl rules and regulations september 2013 current update

item 2.6 palyer service reductions
section f interstate afl senior or rookie listed players who are allocated to a wafl club may be recruited by their aligned wafl club at half their nominated value if they satisfy the defined criteria

i.played 50 league games for the respective wafl club over the duration of 3 seasons

ii.played 20 league matches for the respective wafl club over the duration of 5 seasons

as adam selwood has played 35 games over 10 years he qualifles under subclause ii.
so under this rule he can play for east perth at half the nominated points if he decides to play on

.....perhaps Ash should of played in hindsight.....on Lycett.....

anyway I can see why the SD boys are pissed.....bit of de ja vu from last year.....home game final...favourites....cut throat elimination......another loss to an AFL laden side......beginning with the word East.....once is bad enough....twice is a killer...

hey next year it could be worse with Nats doing what Lycett did to SD on Sun......imagine the level of whinging coming out of Markies mouth then, if that was to happen......

hah Chaddy22, you are a simple fella - you are quoting WAFL rules and regs yet your CEO is using an agreement his club has with the WAFC as the basis for getting Selwood, not the rules and regs you quoted .

do some better homework and remind me who is right and wrong again

East Perth chief executive Dean Turner hoped Selwood would continue to play and claimed that his club's agreement with the WAFC had a provision that could keep the midfielder at the club.

"There is a clause in our agreement to allow a de-listed 10-year player to remain at the club," Turner said