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you're sounding like a broken record 42 and quite frankly have become boring and a bit of an embarrassment...how has Subi's AFL seats arrangement made them the dominant force in the WAFL? Carlton, Melbourne, Collingwood have vast financial resources which hasn't translated into recent success. Your beloved Bogans have lucrative sponsorship deals with Steel Blue and BHPB but you lot are struggling. Blame whomever or whatever you like but at days end take responsibility that your mob are chit this year because you don't have the cattle or coaching staff. We're all under the same points system and salary cap and last time I looked Subi were inside both. Heaven help any club which does well when SD are struggling as straight away there's a conspiracy according to you when in fact SD are the only one to have been caught cheating in recent times.

Yes you're correct there mate, was overseas...I've attended the past 2 weekends although missed the Subi league game whilst over at the bowling club for a function then returning to catch second half of the ressies. As for opposition supporters definitely noticed more from WP than at the Subi round. Times like these our club needs to think outta the box. What's wrong with bring a mate for free at dedicated rounds for members who have paid up for all home games...or even bring your mates plural for free. Clubs need to get the public to get in to the habit of attending the WAFL again. Why not call on the members to do this marketing for them by offering free entry for their mates. If the club words it right to members in saying we want you to help us introduce footy to new people, a new audience, I'm sure most members love the club enough to not only part with their money at the beginning of the season but also do a little to help the club by promoting it with no extra cost to wear personally. Makes sense to me

swan42 wrote: What is the saying? There is an elephant in the room. Three clubs have a HUGE ADVANTAGE over the rest of the clubs. The three clubs are Subiaco and the two AFL aligned ones.

Everyone knows that. The advantages that those clubs means that barring an extraordinary run of injuries they will finish in the finals. At the start of each season all club supporters want a degree of hope that their club can have a successful season and be successful in the finals. The sad reality is that this isn't the case. It is not the case in 2016; it won't be the case in 2017 and it won't be the case for the following years unless the host club alignment is scrapped and the financial advantage that Subiaco is lessened.

The upshot of this is that attendances have dropped off alarmingly. In particular and specifically the Swab Districts' attendances at games at Basso have been affected by very few visiting club's supporters attending the games.

What it's saying is most people care about Afl
And wafl isn't on their radar apart for legacy marque games like Freo
Derbies. Your becoming borderline altzeimers continuing to repeat that visitors don't turn up if your only getting 1000 at games at home that's nothing to do
With visitors and more to do with SFA interest in Sdfc

In a Freo Derby fans don't have to travel, they just go a couple a kms down the road, no way it was 4-5k , it looked terrible on TV 3k tops. Anyway 42 is correct with alignments and dollars/points cap rorting clubs it has sucked the life out of the comp. I will attend week in week out though but we are a dying breed

BC wrote: you're sounding like a broken record 42 and quite frankly have become boring and a bit of an embarrassment...how has Subi's AFL seats arrangement made them the dominant force in the WAFL? Carlton, Melbourne, Collingwood have vast financial resources which hasn't translated into recent success. Your beloved Bogans have lucrative sponsorship deals with Steel Blue and BHPB but you lot are struggling. Blame whomever or whatever you like but at days end take responsibility that your mob are chit this year because you don't have the cattle or coaching staff. We're all under the same points system and salary cap and last time I looked Subi were inside both. Heaven help any club which does well when SD are struggling as straight away there's a conspiracy according to you when in fact SD are the only one to have been caught cheating in recent times.

BC I presume some of that was rhetorical since one doesn't need to be a Rhodes' Scholar to conclude that Subiaco's ability to provide packages for the AFL games allows an income stream that no other WAFL club has. With respect to our sponsorship, a significant amount of our sponsorship money is for our vSwans' programme. A programme that one wonders whether the AFL knows anything about.

Delude yourself as much as you like when you try to deny the reality that it is SUbiaco's financial circumstance that allows your club to dominate. According to your good self and others Subiaco's junior zone is diabolical and therefore it is not through your junior development that has allowed your dominance to continue. Over the past few years you have recruited Twomey, Robinson from Swans and from all reports attempted to throw everything bar the kitchen sink to get Davis to leave Swans and go to Subiaco. How you were able to get Robinson to leave Swans around February and were still able to remain under the salary and points' cap is a wonder that alongside string theory and the theory of relativity is beyond my capabilities to explain.

My final point is that if Subiaco don't realise the damage caused by their financial advantages and hence their dominance of the WAFL competition it is very unfortunate. As that and the host club alignment may spell the end of the WAFL competition as we know it.

None mone of that stopped a few thousand going along to the Anzac Day Derby

Swandog wrote: In a Freo Derby fans don't have to travel, they just go a couple a kms down the road, no way it was 4-5k , it looked terrible on TV 3k tops. Anyway 42 is correct with alignments and dollars/points cap rorting clubs it has sucked the life out of the comp. I will attend week in week out though but we are a dying breed

Unless u were there you wouldn't know most were out of shot of the camera under trees or in stands

There wasn't much life to suck out of the Comp but it hasn't helped people just don't give a stuff anymore it's all about the Eagles and dockers and who Lyon will lose to next. Watch interest in them Plummet now and the Eagles are not even close to premiership material God help us of both teams were up and about big time.

swan42 wrote:

BC wrote: you're sounding like a broken record 42 and quite frankly have become boring and a bit of an embarrassment...how has Subi's AFL seats arrangement made them the dominant force in the WAFL? Carlton, Melbourne, Collingwood have vast financial resources which hasn't translated into recent success. Your beloved Bogans have lucrative sponsorship deals with Steel Blue and BHPB but you lot are struggling. Blame whomever or whatever you like but at days end take responsibility that your mob are chit this year because you don't have the cattle or coaching staff. We're all under the same points system and salary cap and last time I looked Subi were inside both. Heaven help any club which does well when SD are struggling as straight away there's a conspiracy according to you when in fact SD are the only one to have been caught cheating in recent times.

BC I presume some of that was rhetorical since one doesn't need to be a Rhodes' Scholar to conclude that Subiaco's ability to provide packages for the AFL games allows an income stream that no other WAFL club has. With respect to our sponsorship, a significant amount of our sponsorship money is for our vSwans' programme. A programme that one wonders whether the AFL knows anything about.

Delude yourself as much as you like when you try to deny the reality that it is SUbiaco's financial circumstance that allows your club to dominate. According to your good self and others Subiaco's junior zone is diabolical and therefore it is not through your junior development that has allowed your dominance to continue. Over the past few years you have recruited Twomey, Robinson from Swans and from all reports attempted to throw everything bar the kitchen sink to get Davis to leave Swans and go to Subiaco. How you were able to get Robinson to leave Swans around February and were still able to remain under the salary and points' cap is a wonder that alongside string theory and the theory of relativity is beyond my capabilities to explain.

My final point is that if Subiaco don't realise the damage caused by their financial advantages and hence their dominance of the WAFL competition it is very unfortunate. As that and the host club alignment may spell the end of the WAFL competition as we know it.

That's one theory
Another would be that crowds have been on the decline since Swan Districts made a mockery of our great WAFL competition in 2010 with its drug, tax, player points and salary scandals.

Glass houses champ

Swans haven't produced a decent home and away crowd for decades.

Bazza wrote: Swans haven't produced a decent home and away crowd for decades.

Bazza when was the last game you attended at Basso?