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swan42 wrote:

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote: Over the past few years you have recruited Twomey, Robinson from Swans and from all reports attempted to throw everything bar the kitchen sink to get Davis to leave Swans and go to Subiaco.

What part of the SDFC zone did these three players come from?

JD62 welcome to the non sequitur club with that spurious argument. When Swans recruited those players, and no-one has suggested they came from Swans' zone, where had we finished in the league and reserves in the previous years? A completely different situation to Subiaco already dominating a competition cherry picking some of the best players from other clubs.

Stop being a condescending fool. You complained about a team recruiting players from outside their zone by using three obviously poorly chosen examples. Three players that were part of a recruiting campaign by Swan Districts that resulted in their last period of success, the same actions you have poorly denounced at Subiaco. Accept it and move on but don't try to belittle others with misused vocabulary.

You seem to always repeat the same monotonous reasoning for every problem you perceive with the competition. There is one obvious comparison to make between the WAFL and the slow demise of this very website. Maybe people have had enough of going to the WAFL and having to listen to the same monotonous complaints from WAFL regulars that circle the ground week in, week out. It is probably why people have decided to no longer comment on here because it gets lost in between the same tedious comments from the few who subconsciously revel in bring down any positives because it does not involve their team.

Another possible reason for the fall in attendance is the lack of money teams are channelling into spectator areas. I was lucky to be invited to the Claremont home game at Bassendean earlier this year and was disappointed by the condition of the playing surface and surrounds which was combined with a similar decaying attitude amongst the supporters. Sandy uneven patches on the ground circled by a one time famous wooden picket fence in a state of disrepair and poorly kept seats and stands.

Perhaps if teams like Swan Districts focused more on keeping the spectator areas in a suitable condition it would be more attractive for people to attend. It could also mean those that do attend would not be involuntarily compelled to have a similar sentiment to match the environs.

Beasley Hutton wrote:

Theouterseagull wrote:

Bazza wrote:

swan42 wrote:

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote: Over the past few years you have recruited Twomey, Robinson from Swans and from all reports attempted to throw everything bar the kitchen sink to get Davis to leave Swans and go to Subiaco.

What part of the SDFC zone did these three players come from?

JD62 welcome to the non sequitur club with that spurious argument. When Swans recruited those players, and no-one has suggested they came from Swans' zone, where had we finished in the league and reserves in the previous years? A completely different situation to Subiaco already dominating a competition cherry picking some of the best players from other clubs.

I thought this thread was on WAFL crowds, ??? Why is becoming a SDFC justification apologist thread...??? There are other clubs in the league!

The precious sisters think it's all about them, their club is now irrelevant on the field and in attendance figures. It's time to sit quietly now fellas while the traditional WAFL clubs dominate.

You do realise WP are the only traditional WAFL club dont you?

Traditional clubs have over 100 years of history as far as I'm concerned.

Traditional clubs still play at their traditional venue as far as I am concerned!

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote:

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote: Over the past few years you have recruited Twomey, Robinson from Swans and from all reports attempted to throw everything bar the kitchen sink to get Davis to leave Swans and go to Subiaco.

What part of the SDFC zone did these three players come from?

JD62 welcome to the non sequitur club with that spurious argument. When Swans recruited those players, and no-one has suggested they came from Swans' zone, where had we finished in the league and reserves in the previous years? A completely different situation to Subiaco already dominating a competition cherry picking some of the best players from other clubs.

Stop being a condescending fool. You complained about a team recruiting players from outside their zone by using three obviously poorly chosen examples. Three players that were part of a recruiting campaign by Swan Districts that resulted in their last period of success, the same actions you have poorly denounced at Subiaco. Accept it and move on but don't try to belittle others with misused vocabulary.

You seem to always repeat the same monotonous reasoning for every problem you perceive with the competition. There is one obvious comparison to make between the WAFL and the slow demise of this very website. Maybe people have had enough of going to the WAFL and having to listen to the same monotonous complaints from WAFL regulars that circle the ground week in, week out. It is probably why people have decided to no longer comment on here because it gets lost in between the same tedious comments from the few who subconsciously revel in bring down any positives because it does not involve their team.

Another possible reason for the fall in attendance is the lack of money teams are channelling into spectator areas. I was lucky to be invited to the Claremont home game at Bassendean earlier this year and was disappointed by the condition of the playing surface and surrounds which was combined with a similar decaying attitude amongst the supporters. Sandy uneven patches on the ground circled by a one time famous wooden picket fence in a state of disrepair and poorly kept seats and stands.

Perhaps if teams like Swan Districts focused more on keeping the spectator areas in a suitable condition it would be more attractive for people to attend. It could also mean those that do attend would not be involuntarily compelled to have a similar sentiment to match the environs.

Well said, the bottom line is a lot of frustrated SDFC people here are not coming to terms with their clubs epic failure on and off the field, as you say the repeated claims that they attract fans they consisitently have failed to deliver.

I also agree that Bassendean is in a poor state, I can only put this down to the fact the council have decided to suspend works until the bulldozers move in for the redevelopment

this is a problem at a few grounds now, I was at EF oval Saturday and its in a deplorable semi demolition state, all the shelters in the outer have been removed, no maintenance is being carried out the banks which are quite sandy now. toilets are now just transportable, but as we know EFFC days are numbered there as are Perth's at the old Latho which had dead grass banks now.

I can understand councils not wanting to spend money on areas that will shortly be demolised.

Freo oval is going the same way, I just hope years of delay do not happen and they all end up completely unusable.

Claremont will be the new bench mark.

Beasley Hutton wrote:

Bazza wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Bazza wrote: Swans haven't produced a decent home and away crowd for decades.

Bazza when was the last game you attended at Basso?

This year

last good crowd I saw there in and H & A was 1989, That game is on you tube I think.

2011 vs $ubi, 2008 vs Perth, 2009 vs SF 2010, vs EP are just a few off the top of my head that had double the Derby crowd on Saturday!

None of those games were played on a Foundation Day public holiday where there is no competition for space & time like work, kids sport, shops open, AFL games on TV etc either ...in fact the last time Swans played on Foundation Day vs EP the crowd was near 10k ...over to you Barry

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote:

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote: Over the past few years you have recruited Twomey, Robinson from Swans and from all reports attempted to throw everything bar the kitchen sink to get Davis to leave Swans and go to Subiaco.

What part of the SDFC zone did these three players come from?

JD62 welcome to the non sequitur club with that spurious argument. When Swans recruited those players, and no-one has suggested they came from Swans' zone, where had we finished in the league and reserves in the previous years? A completely different situation to Subiaco already dominating a competition cherry picking some of the best players from other clubs.

Stop being a condescending fool. You complained about a team recruiting players from outside their zone by using three obviously poorly chosen examples. Three players that were part of a recruiting campaign by Swan Districts that resulted in their last period of success, the same actions you have poorly denounced at Subiaco. Accept it and move on but don't try to belittle others with misused vocabulary.

You seem to always repeat the same monotonous reasoning for every problem you perceive with the competition. There is one obvious comparison to make between the WAFL and the slow demise of this very website. Maybe people have had enough of going to the WAFL and having to listen to the same monotonous complaints from WAFL regulars that circle the ground week in, week out. It is probably why people have decided to no longer comment on here because it gets lost in between the same tedious comments from the few who subconsciously revel in bring down any positives because it does not involve their team.

Another possible reason for the fall in attendance is the lack of money teams are channelling into spectator areas. I was lucky to be invited to the Claremont home game at Bassendean earlier this year and was disappointed by the condition of the playing surface and surrounds which was combined with a similar decaying attitude amongst the supporters. Sandy uneven patches on the ground circled by a one time famous wooden picket fence in a state of disrepair and poorly kept seats and stands.

Perhaps if teams like Swan Districts focused more on keeping the spectator areas in a suitable condition it would be more attractive for people to attend. It could also mean those that do attend would not be involuntarily compelled to have a similar sentiment to match the environs.

What an absolute joke to criticise either the playing conditions or spectator facilities at Basso given you attended the Claremont home game at Basso. Whilst the playing surface is not as good as it usually is at Basso this season when you compare the condition that Swans were forced to endure playing at the Showgrounds last season Basso Oval is in pristine condition. As for spectator facilities, one had to walk miles to find a toilet open at the Showgrounds last year and where were the undercover facilities at the Showgrunds. You obviously have not been to a Claremont home game at the Showgrounds not dare I say it at East Fremantle Oval.

Resorting to personal abuse almost invariably means that one has lost the argument. I also note that you didn't answer the question about where the two senior teams had finished in the preceding seasons.

Bazza wrote:

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote:

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote: Over the past few years you have recruited Twomey, Robinson from Swans and from all reports attempted to throw everything bar the kitchen sink to get Davis to leave Swans and go to Subiaco.

What part of the SDFC zone did these three players come from?

JD62 welcome to the non sequitur club with that spurious argument. When Swans recruited those players, and no-one has suggested they came from Swans' zone, where had we finished in the league and reserves in the previous years? A completely different situation to Subiaco already dominating a competition cherry picking some of the best players from other clubs.

Stop being a condescending fool. You complained about a team recruiting players from outside their zone by using three obviously poorly chosen examples. Three players that were part of a recruiting campaign by Swan Districts that resulted in their last period of success, the same actions you have poorly denounced at Subiaco. Accept it and move on but don't try to belittle others with misused vocabulary.

You seem to always repeat the same monotonous reasoning for every problem you perceive with the competition. There is one obvious comparison to make between the WAFL and the slow demise of this very website. Maybe people have had enough of going to the WAFL and having to listen to the same monotonous complaints from WAFL regulars that circle the ground week in, week out. It is probably why people have decided to no longer comment on here because it gets lost in between the same tedious comments from the few who subconsciously revel in bring down any positives because it does not involve their team.

Another possible reason for the fall in attendance is the lack of money teams are channelling into spectator areas. I was lucky to be invited to the Claremont home game at Bassendean earlier this year and was disappointed by the condition of the playing surface and surrounds which was combined with a similar decaying attitude amongst the supporters. Sandy uneven patches on the ground circled by a one time famous wooden picket fence in a state of disrepair and poorly kept seats and stands.

Perhaps if teams like Swan Districts focused more on keeping the spectator areas in a suitable condition it would be more attractive for people to attend. It could also mean those that do attend would not be involuntarily compelled to have a similar sentiment to match the environs.

Well said, the bottom line is a lot of frustrated SDFC people here are not coming to terms with their clubs epic failure on and off the field, as you say the repeated claims that they attract fans they consisitently have failed to deliver.

I also agree that Bassendean is in a poor state, I can only put this down to the fact the council have decided to suspend works until the bulldozers move in for the redevelopment

this is a problem at a few grounds now, I was at EF oval Saturday and its in a deplorable semi demolition state, all the shelters in the outer have been removed, no maintenance is being carried out the banks which are quite sandy now. toilets are now just transportable, but as we know EFFC days are numbered there as are Perth's at the old Latho which had dead grass banks now.

I can understand councils not wanting to spend money on areas that will shortly be demolised.

Freo oval is going the same way, I just hope years of delay do not happen and they all end up completely unusable.

Claremont will be the new bench mark.

Bazza the Macca and Bill Walker stands are not going to be demolished; the same as your Victoria Stand they are both heritage listed.

swan42 wrote:

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote: Over the past few years you have recruited Twomey, Robinson from Swans and from all reports attempted to throw everything bar the kitchen sink to get Davis to leave Swans and go to Subiaco.

What part of the SDFC zone did these three players come from?

JD62 welcome to the non sequitur club with that spurious argument. When Swans recruited those players, and no-one has suggested they came from Swans' zone, where had we finished in the league and reserves in the previous years? A completely different situation to Subiaco already dominating a competition cherry picking some of the best players from other clubs.

Add to the list Delahunty, Boland, Shepheard all poached from under West Perth's nose after they got them over here and I have it on excellent authority that Davis was sealed to play with $ubi this year as well, thankfully he got drafted but how the hell were they going to fit him in their ` Salary 'cap I wonder?. All clubs recruit a handful of players and develop their own but Scumi take it to the opposite level binging on other clubs and developing too few through unfair and uneven financial arrangement's plus rorting the points cap.
Karl Langdon had the hide on PR two weeks ago to say to Greg Harding that Swans have a good history of recruiting players from other clubs!! But Greg put him straight on that front, a few weeks prior to that Langdon also had the hide to chat with Schofield about how $ubi have developed their own and worked their zone really well etc etc, what a F##king joke! But what do you expect from a $ubi man like Langdon I suppose.
Donny Holmes also put Gary Carvolth (another $ubi man) straight on 91.3fm last week in a Where are they now interview and after Carvolth went on about $ubi`s success after decades in the doldrums Holmes staright away pulled him up eluding to their favourable financial arrangments. The whole world knows the truth apart from those deluded at $ubiaco!

swan42 wrote:

Bazza wrote:

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote:

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote: Over the past few years you have recruited Twomey, Robinson from Swans and from all reports attempted to throw everything bar the kitchen sink to get Davis to leave Swans and go to Subiaco.

What part of the SDFC zone did these three players come from?

JD62 welcome to the non sequitur club with that spurious argument. When Swans recruited those players, and no-one has suggested they came from Swans' zone, where had we finished in the league and reserves in the previous years? A completely different situation to Subiaco already dominating a competition cherry picking some of the best players from other clubs.

Stop being a condescending fool. You complained about a team recruiting players from outside their zone by using three obviously poorly chosen examples. Three players that were part of a recruiting campaign by Swan Districts that resulted in their last period of success, the same actions you have poorly denounced at Subiaco. Accept it and move on but don't try to belittle others with misused vocabulary.

You seem to always repeat the same monotonous reasoning for every problem you perceive with the competition. There is one obvious comparison to make between the WAFL and the slow demise of this very website. Maybe people have had enough of going to the WAFL and having to listen to the same monotonous complaints from WAFL regulars that circle the ground week in, week out. It is probably why people have decided to no longer comment on here because it gets lost in between the same tedious comments from the few who subconsciously revel in bring down any positives because it does not involve their team.

Another possible reason for the fall in attendance is the lack of money teams are channelling into spectator areas. I was lucky to be invited to the Claremont home game at Bassendean earlier this year and was disappointed by the condition of the playing surface and surrounds which was combined with a similar decaying attitude amongst the supporters. Sandy uneven patches on the ground circled by a one time famous wooden picket fence in a state of disrepair and poorly kept seats and stands.

Perhaps if teams like Swan Districts focused more on keeping the spectator areas in a suitable condition it would be more attractive for people to attend. It could also mean those that do attend would not be involuntarily compelled to have a similar sentiment to match the environs.

Well said, the bottom line is a lot of frustrated SDFC people here are not coming to terms with their clubs epic failure on and off the field, as you say the repeated claims that they attract fans they consisitently have failed to deliver.

I also agree that Bassendean is in a poor state, I can only put this down to the fact the council have decided to suspend works until the bulldozers move in for the redevelopment

this is a problem at a few grounds now, I was at EF oval Saturday and its in a deplorable semi demolition state, all the shelters in the outer have been removed, no maintenance is being carried out the banks which are quite sandy now. toilets are now just transportable, but as we know EFFC days are numbered there as are Perth's at the old Latho which had dead grass banks now.

I can understand councils not wanting to spend money on areas that will shortly be demolised.

Freo oval is going the same way, I just hope years of delay do not happen and they all end up completely unusable.

Claremont will be the new bench mark.

Bazza the Macca and Bill Walker stands are not going to be demolished; the same as your Victoria Stand they are both heritage listed.

Who said anything about pulling them down? Like the Vic Pav they need a lot of dough spent on them , hopefully funds raised by the sell off of the grass bank land will provide that, the bulldozers wil level the entire ground bar the members side and be surrounded by housing.

Bazza wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Bazza wrote:

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote:

JD62 wrote:

swan42 wrote: Over the past few years you have recruited Twomey, Robinson from Swans and from all reports attempted to throw everything bar the kitchen sink to get Davis to leave Swans and go to Subiaco.

What part of the SDFC zone did these three players come from?

JD62 welcome to the non sequitur club with that spurious argument. When Swans recruited those players, and no-one has suggested they came from Swans' zone, where had we finished in the league and reserves in the previous years? A completely different situation to Subiaco already dominating a competition cherry picking some of the best players from other clubs.

Stop being a condescending fool. You complained about a team recruiting players from outside their zone by using three obviously poorly chosen examples. Three players that were part of a recruiting campaign by Swan Districts that resulted in their last period of success, the same actions you have poorly denounced at Subiaco. Accept it and move on but don't try to belittle others with misused vocabulary.

You seem to always repeat the same monotonous reasoning for every problem you perceive with the competition. There is one obvious comparison to make between the WAFL and the slow demise of this very website. Maybe people have had enough of going to the WAFL and having to listen to the same monotonous complaints from WAFL regulars that circle the ground week in, week out. It is probably why people have decided to no longer comment on here because it gets lost in between the same tedious comments from the few who subconsciously revel in bring down any positives because it does not involve their team.

Another possible reason for the fall in attendance is the lack of money teams are channelling into spectator areas. I was lucky to be invited to the Claremont home game at Bassendean earlier this year and was disappointed by the condition of the playing surface and surrounds which was combined with a similar decaying attitude amongst the supporters. Sandy uneven patches on the ground circled by a one time famous wooden picket fence in a state of disrepair and poorly kept seats and stands.

Perhaps if teams like Swan Districts focused more on keeping the spectator areas in a suitable condition it would be more attractive for people to attend. It could also mean those that do attend would not be involuntarily compelled to have a similar sentiment to match the environs.

Well said, the bottom line is a lot of frustrated SDFC people here are not coming to terms with their clubs epic failure on and off the field, as you say the repeated claims that they attract fans they consisitently have failed to deliver.

I also agree that Bassendean is in a poor state, I can only put this down to the fact the council have decided to suspend works until the bulldozers move in for the redevelopment

this is a problem at a few grounds now, I was at EF oval Saturday and its in a deplorable semi demolition state, all the shelters in the outer have been removed, no maintenance is being carried out the banks which are quite sandy now. toilets are now just transportable, but as we know EFFC days are numbered there as are Perth's at the old Latho which had dead grass banks now.

I can understand councils not wanting to spend money on areas that will shortly be demolised.

Freo oval is going the same way, I just hope years of delay do not happen and they all end up completely unusable.

Claremont will be the new bench mark.

Bazza the Macca and Bill Walker stands are not going to be demolished; the same as your Victoria Stand they are both heritage listed.

Who said anything about pulling them down? Like the Vic Pav they need a lot of dough spent on them , hopefully funds raised by the sell off of the grass bank land will provide that, the bulldozers wil level the entire ground bar the members side and be surrounded by housing.

Who would want to live there? Those who want their tyres slashed I suppose