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Fix PFC Zone 4 years 1 day ago #203549

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Thanks tiger tales for the link. I was impressed by the systematic attempt to achieve eveness in numbers at the time and in the future. 

Stand the test is more or less arguing for "coastal privilege" and numbers being not the correct lens through which to view the matter.

I think because the issue is so complex it's best to simplify everything and use an equal numbers approach. To try to compensate for coastal privilege in your zoning just gets too arbitrary and insulting. 

Maybe Perth does have to accept its lot as the club of the Armidale branch of the WAFL railway system. Is not a  easy line. No dispute. But you know what you've got and you've got to deal with it. 
Equalization might be better coming in terms of player points and that seems  to be in place, as mentioned above. Maybe tweak that further depending on average ladder finish over last 5 years, or something like that. For every year you don't make the finals, here's another 10 points. Or something like that. 

The world isn't even. You redistribute as much as you can without taking the fun, innovation, and competition out of life and ending up in uniform grey communist Eastern Europe. Apologies to anyone from the old Soviet block, but you know what I mean. 

How's that for some mangled metaphors?






 

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Fix PFC Zone 4 years 1 day ago #203562

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Hang in there. It's been an enjoyable thread. 

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Fix PFC Zone 4 years 1 day ago #203581

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We have had some very good kids come out of Avon Valley.
Changa, Glass and Davis just 3 draftees I can think of.
I'm sure there are a lot more.
Some of our current league squad are also from Avon.

Give Avon away, no thank you.
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Winning isn't everything. It's the ONLY THING !!!!!!
I shot the fukin sherriff!!!!

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Northam, York and surrounds are currently undergoing some population growth, I live in York and being in the building industry take notice of the activity in the region, York district high is increasing enrolments each year we have been here so the pop increase isnt just tree changers, it's also families. A lot of FIFO's with young families live up here due to it's proximity to the metro area, they along with the established farming families mean their are a lot of high income earners in the region, plenty of big farm lads that live and breath footy most of which are boarders at the big private schools but still tied to PFC, so the Avon should be see as the jewel of the PFC zones, so close to the metro area, so easy and cheap to service. My club has good zones in the Goldfields and down Esperence, both have produced quality footballers but are a long way away, same for the clubs that have the Pilbara and Kimberley.

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Fix PFC Zone 4 years 1 day ago #203604

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Northam, York and surrounds are currently undergoing some population growth, I live in York and being in the building industry take notice of the activity in the region, York district high is increasing enrolments each year we have been here so the pop increase isnt just tree changers, it's also families. A lot of FIFO's with young families live up here due to it's proximity to the metro area, they along with the established farming families mean their are a lot of high income earners in the region, plenty of big farm lads that live and breath footy most of which are boarders at the big private schools but still tied to PFC, so the Avon should be see as the jewel of the PFC zones, so close to the metro area, so easy and cheap to service. My club has good zones in the Goldfields and down Esperence, both have produced quality footballers but are a long way away, same for the clubs that have the Pilbara and Kimberley.
Just to compare and contrast how would you rate Subi's country zone with Swans's zone?

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Fix PFC Zone 4 years 1 day ago #203612

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Northam, York and surrounds are currently undergoing some population growth, I live in York and being in the building industry take notice of the activity in the region, York district high is increasing enrolments each year we have been here so the pop increase isnt just tree changers, it's also families. A lot of FIFO's with young families live up here due to it's proximity to the metro area, they along with the established farming families mean their are a lot of high income earners in the region, plenty of big farm lads that live and breath footy most of which are boarders at the big private schools but still tied to PFC, so the Avon should be see as the jewel of the PFC zones, so close to the metro area, so easy and cheap to service. My club has good zones in the Goldfields and down Esperence, both have produced quality footballers but are a long way away, same for the clubs that have the Pilbara and Kimberley.
Just to compare and contrast how would you rate Subi's country zone with Swans's zone?
I'd grab your metro zone in a heartbeat. Would keep the Subi country zone though....since Swans South-West area was cut in half by Peel. And yeah Pilbara is a tough gig and I admire the work Swans do up there.
Cute, but I did say country zone.  Excluding the north-west part of our zone, it is perhaps a little grandiose to describe what we have in the south-west as a country zone.

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Fix PFC Zone 4 years 1 day ago #203622

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Northam, York and surrounds are currently undergoing some population growth, I live in York and being in the building industry take notice of the activity in the region, York district high is increasing enrolments each year we have been here so the pop increase isnt just tree changers, it's also families. A lot of FIFO's with young families live up here due to it's proximity to the metro area, they along with the established farming families mean their are a lot of high income earners in the region, plenty of big farm lads that live and breath footy most of which are boarders at the big private schools but still tied to PFC, so the Avon should be see as the jewel of the PFC zones, so close to the metro area, so easy and cheap to service. My club has good zones in the Goldfields and down Esperence, both have produced quality footballers but are a long way away, same for the clubs that have the Pilbara and Kimberley.
Just to compare and contrast how would you rate Subi's country zone with Swans's zone?
I'd grab your metro zone in a heartbeat. Would keep the Subi country zone though....since Swans South-West area was cut in half by Peel. And yeah Pilbara is a tough gig and I admire the work Swans do up there.
Cute, but I did say country zone.  Excluding the north-west part of our zone, it is perhaps a little grandiose to describe what we have in the south-west as a country zone.
I agree and that's part of the Peel factor. Everything changed and everything was rearranged to fit them in. 3 clubs in the South-West isn't fair to Swans.

But your metro is solid as a rock and it will only get more population. I like the Swans metro zone a lot. Wouldn't mind working with that at all.
At one stage the WAFC wanted to remove Bassendean JFC from the Swans zone.  I can't see how gutting our metro zone and moving it to Subi's zone would help either Swans or Perth.

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Fix PFC Zone 4 years 1 day ago #203634

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Northam, York and surrounds are currently undergoing some population growth, I live in York and being in the building industry take notice of the activity in the region, York district high is increasing enrolments each year we have been here so the pop increase isnt just tree changers, it's also families. A lot of FIFO's with young families live up here due to it's proximity to the metro area, they along with the established farming families mean their are a lot of high income earners in the region, plenty of big farm lads that live and breath footy most of which are boarders at the big private schools but still tied to PFC, so the Avon should be see as the jewel of the PFC zones, so close to the metro area, so easy and cheap to service. My club has good zones in the Goldfields and down Esperence, both have produced quality footballers but are a long way away, same for the clubs that have the Pilbara and Kimberley.
Just to compare and contrast how would you rate Subi's country zone with Swans's zone?
I'd grab your metro zone in a heartbeat. Would keep the Subi country zone though....since Swans South-West area was cut in half by Peel. And yeah Pilbara is a tough gig and I admire the work Swans do up there.
Cute, but I did say country zone.  Excluding the north-west part of our zone, it is perhaps a little grandiose to describe what we have in the south-west as a country zone.
I agree and that's part of the Peel factor. Everything changed and everything was rearranged to fit them in. 3 clubs in the South-West isn't fair to Swans.

But your metro is solid as a rock and it will only get more population. I like the Swans metro zone a lot. Wouldn't mind working with that at all.
At one stage the WAFC wanted to remove Bassendean JFC from the Swans zone.  I can't see how gutting our metro zone and moving it to Subi's zone would help either Swans or Perth.
Mate, you asked which zone is better. I've said that although Subi's country zone is pretty small and without many clubs, I would prefer it to Swan's country zone.

But I preface that by saying the Swan Districts metro zone is top notch.

I think I'm pretty unbiased in this thread. I'm looking at the number of clubs and junior teams and crunching the numbers.

Nobody said about moving the Swan's zone into the Subiaco zone. 

You wanted a comparison. I answered fairly and gave you another comparison.
My previous post was somewhat tongue in cheek.  Unfortunately, despite all the goodwill on here to address the problems with zones the one body, the WAFC, that could do something about it is less inclined to do anything about it than I am likely to support the Liberal Party or join the Eagles.

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Fix PFC Zone 4 years 1 day ago #203638

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I'm surprised you bother with politics mate.

Political parties exist now to facilitate corporate multinationals, perennial wars, big tech and themselves. Both sides are the same apart from some local issues.

But I'll stick to the topic which is Perth FC.

My summation is that Perth have a very good country zone. A beauty in fact. But their metro zone is now heavily populated by migrants who have no interest in footy - have soccer clubs at their disposal and in the case of the huge Indian and Nepalese population - cricket clubs. Gosnells and Perth CC will be pretty strong in years to come though. I sometimes see the Indian folks playing tapeball cricket around here in winter.

But would like to see some of them play footy for Perth or any other WAFL club.
Which comes back to what exactly is the WAFC doing about it?  

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Fix PFC Zone 4 years 1 day ago #203641

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Aren't there now fewer number of teams involved in the top women's Aussie Rules competition in Perth than prior to the WAFC taking over that competition?

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