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I fully understood what you were saying shiz. The biggest problem is that clubs will be affected long term for a short term gain. All you need is a sponsor or two to pull the pin and the bubble will burst. Like you said PH if you win a flag and go up you will need to recruit more to be competitive which means more spend. Say for example you win a c grade and then b grade flag but your ressies and colts are getting flogged it is just false economy and as soon as the bugs bunny runs out your club is playing in a grade too high to compete, not that this has ever happened. Which we all know the numbers soon dwindle when your not winning. The biggest problem is there is no way to stop it, well if you do it properly cause the money will never run through the club. Its not good for amateur footy when your sponsorship coordinator has more of an impact on results than your coach.

The Rug wrote: I fully understood what you were saying shiz. The biggest problem is that clubs will be affected long term for a short term gain. All you need is a sponsor or two to pull the pin and the bubble will burst. Like you said PH if you win a flag and go up you will need to recruit more to be competitive which means more spend. Say for example you win a c grade and then b grade flag but your ressies and colts are getting flogged it is just false economy and as soon as the bugs bunny runs out your club is playing in a grade too high to compete, not that this has ever happened. Which we all know the numbers soon dwindle when your not winning. The biggest problem is there is no way to stop it, well if you do it properly cause the money will never run through the club. Its not good for amateur footy when your sponsorship coordinator has more of an impact on results than your coach.

= Capitalism.

I agree with alot been said here i think a contributing factor to most clubs problems is there are TO MANY clubs which the waafl dont give a shit cos the affiliation fees fill there bank but in some areas every suburb after suburb has a footy club so then come the struggles of each club trying to attract players y should one club be aloud to have two colts teams or a 3rds and 4ths team when the club down the road is struggling for numbers or seriously some of these d grade and c3 and c4 league teams would make good reserves teams for some higher ranked clubs which makes a better competition
the waafl needs to wake up and actually do something to improve football instead of just sweeping everything under the carpet and pretending things dont go on and lets be honest most of if not all the waafl committee have been involved with clubs (the waafl president if ex nth beach pres) so im pretty sure they know what goes on seriously

Be interesting who you tried to recruit The Shiz? Are you sure they weren't pulling your leg? Also where have they ended up. It will be interesting the check the transfer list over the coming weeks.

It's also dissappointing that clubs have to resort to paying players, rather than give young players a go.

King wrote: I agree with alot been said here i think a contributing factor to most clubs problems is there are TO MANY clubs which the waafl dont give a shit cos the affiliation fees fill there bank but in some areas every suburb after suburb has a footy club so then come the struggles of each club trying to attract players y should one club be aloud to have two colts teams or a 3rds and 4ths team when the club down the road is struggling for numbers or seriously some of these d grade and c3 and c4 league teams would make good reserves teams for some higher ranked clubs which makes a better competition
the waafl needs to wake up and actually do something to improve football instead of just sweeping everything under the carpet and pretending things dont go on and lets be honest most of if not all the waafl committee have been involved with clubs (the waafl president if ex nth beach pres) so im pretty sure they know what goes on seriously

Commie

Fully agree king. I loved the statement last year by one of the clowns from the waafl when he was asked at one of the meetings, we are losing all our colts players to the a grade clubs who have two and three colts teams, it can't be good for the comp when a lot of clubs don't have colts teams due to bigger clubs poaching that already have an abundance of colts. His response was any club can have a colts team if they try hard enough, your club needs to work harder to get colts, i would love him to come out and show a lot of us how it is done. Theres only so many fish in the tank and all your doing is robbing peter to pay paul. It will be great in years to come when you have multiple colts teams from one club in the same comp.

Now that we are in B grade, when we have tried to recruit players they have said that they are getting paid elsewhere and if we want them, we have to match what they are getting. These players are playing for other B grade clubs in the hope of an easy flag. It is harder to get them to the club as they want coin.[/quote]

Thanks for clarifying that Shiz, however Welcome to the world of community football mate. Every club below A grade has your problems. Some of the clubs in C grade and below also have to deal with country football paying heaps to get blokes that are just honest C1 and C2 players to play country football. I know of guys that don't star in C1 and below that are offered upwards of $300.00 per game to play in the country. In this day and age its all about the dollar.....

The WAAFL has built this beast and I agree every time a new suburb pops up they allow them to have a footy club, there are only so many players in the state.

Rug I think I was at the same meeting as you were, I think he said to go and "Poach" those kids by offering them free fees and gear, amongst other things.......

Yes its all becoming abit of a joke i think the south west league (bunbury) have had good success with the points system and alot of leagues around Australia have introduced it at least evens up the playing field and success then comes back to how good u run your club with management and coaching skills
With life being so busy these days sport isnt a priority anymore i think it would be great to have less teams stronger clubs and better football played with the attitudes and priorities of the people in charge at the moment it wont be long and soccer will take over lol

Don't worry about competing against country clubs PH. There are C grade teams paying players too.

Don't we know that Viper...... seems its open season on paying whoever you want to, most of these clubs will fold and go back down the grades as quickly as they go up them