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I assume people don't understand my thoughts so I will express them again.

A 14 team AFL would see every game as a blockbuster.

We wouldn't be watching North Melbourne play Sydney or Richmond or WC in front of a crowd of 30K.

We wouldn't be watching GC play Essondon or Collingwood in front of a crowd of 35K.

We wouldn't be wathcing Footscray play Hawthorne or Richmond in front of crowds of 30K.

We wouldn';t be watching West Sydney play in front of crowds of 7-8 k.

We would have each game (baring West Sydney and GC) with crowds of 60k plus. WS and GC would go up to around 30k.

Everyone would have an AFL team and everyone would have a local team.

Local footy would have crowdds of 5 - 8 K at each game. It would be a real second tier comp.

Surly not another dollar to North Melbourne or Footscray unless helping them move to the vfl.

Anyone agree??

And to all you Perth supporters I too know that the great man played for north melbourne

Time For a Flag wrote: I assume people don't understand my thoughts so I will express them again.

A 14 team AFL would see every game as a blockbuster.

We wouldn't be watching North Melbourne play Sydney or Richmond or WC in front of a crowd of 30K.

We wouldn't be watching GC play Essondon or Collingwood in front of a crowd of 35K.

We wouldn't be wathcing Footscray play Hawthorne or Richmond in front of crowds of 30K.

We wouldn';t be watching West Sydney play in front of crowds of 7-8 k.

We would have each game (baring West Sydney and GC) with crowds of 60k plus. WS and GC would go up to around 30k.

Everyone would have an AFL team and everyone would have a local team.

Local footy would have crowdds of 5 - 8 K at each game. It would be a real second tier comp.

Surly not another dollar to North Melbourne or Footscray unless helping them move to the vfl.

Anyone agree??

mate I dont really understand what your post is about

this is a thread for the WAFL future , your talking AFL.

Time For a Flag wrote: I assume people don't understand my thoughts so I will express them again.
A 14 team AFL would see every game as a blockbuster.
We wouldn't be watching North Melbourne play Sydney or Richmond or WC in front of a crowd of 30K.
We wouldn't be watching GC play Essondon or Collingwood in front of a crowd of 35K.
We wouldn't be wathcing Footscray play Hawthorne or Richmond in front of crowds of 30K.
We wouldn';t be watching West Sydney play in front of crowds of 7-8 k.
We would have each game (baring West Sydney and GC) with crowds of 60k plus. WS and GC would go up to around 30k.
Everyone would have an AFL team and everyone would have a local team.
Local footy would have crowdds of 5 - 8 K at each game. It would be a real second tier comp.
Surly not another dollar to North Melbourne or Footscray unless helping them move to the vfl.

Anyone agree??

I think we are getting off track abit here. the AFL isn't the subject and expecting such a re-sculpture of sorts is never going to happen anyway. your theory is basically an AFL reserves comp.

I am expressing a view on our WAFL. And on WAFL clubs to keep an identity beyond our lifetimes. Keeping things as they are will see several become unsustainable. This other concept could see them all with a complete new lease of life.

its not a complicated format. it would be very simplified & elevate every club to a professional level otherwise unachievable.

The subject matter is about WAFL crowds. This format would attract major attention and in turn attract crowds and ratings. My theory is if something outside the box like this isn't at least looked into, it will end up where its heading. What has the WAFL & SANFL got to lose ? If the idea isn't backable, then we can at least say (in the great John Kennedy saying) "At least we tried, At least we did something, for the sake of the team".

I think it would take a good 2 years to put something together. So when it hits the ground, it hits the ground with an instant impact. It cant be done half cocked like most things in Western Australia.

TFAF theories are based on too many VB's.

I am well aware that the topic is about increasing numbers in the WAFL.

My point is that if there were less mediocre teams in the AFL it would further advance the spectacle of the AFL whilst returning the state leagues to a real and proud 2nd tier competition.

When the Vics had 12 teams in the VFL (the Premier comp as people say) the state leagues were strong. Again people say that they had a WAFL team and a Vic team or a SANFL team and a Vic team.

So if the AFL was a real afl and not an extended vfl then we would see only 14 teams in the AFL (4 less from Melbourne) and the talent pool and sponsorship dollar spread once again across the state leagues.

Each AFL game would be a perler. The talant and sponsership and crowds in the WAFL and the like would increase hugely and our state league players could once again get a fair days pay for a fair days work.

Some of them like a (Stephen Michael) might not even want to play in the AFL

I have a lot of time on my hands right now, so excuse me for boring the lot of you. But regardless I just want to give an example of what I mean.

The clubs that would be involved

1. Central Districts (at Elizebeth Oval)
2. East Fremantle (at Fremantle Oval)
3. Adelaide Crows (at Adelaide Oval)
4. West Perth (at Joondalup)
5. Glenelg (at Glenelg Oval)
6. South Fremantle (at Fremantle Oval)
7. North Adelaide (at Prospect Oval)
8. Perth Demons (at Lathain Park)
9. Norwood (at Norwood Oval)
10. Peel Dockers (at Rushton Park)
11. Port Adelaide (at Alberton Oval)
12. Subiaco (at Leederville Oval)
13. South Adelaide (at Hickinbotham Oval)
14. West Coast (at Lathlain Park)
15. Sturt (at Unley Oval)
16. East Perth (at Leederville)
17. Swan Districts (at Bassendean Oval)
18. West Adelaide (at Richmond Oval)
19. Claremont (at Claremont Oval)
20. Woodville/Torrens (at Woodville Oval)

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An example of an opening round of fixtures could be.

Friday Night
South Fremantle vs North Adelaide at Fremantle Oval
Adelaide vs Claremont at Adelaide Oval

Saturday Afternoon
Swan Districts vs South Adelaide at Bassendean Oval
Perth vs West Perth at Lathlain Park
Sturt vs Woodville/Torrens at Unley Oval
Central Districts vs West Coast at Elizebeth Oval

Saturday Night
Subiaco vs West Adelaide at Leederville Oval
Glenelg vs East Perth at Glenelg Oval

Sunday
Port Adelaide vs Norwood at Alberton Oval
East Fremantle vs Peel Dockers at Fremantle Oval

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* There would be many rounds where all WAFL clubs and SANFL clubs would play each other and not travel. The traditional games will still be prominent. And in fact moreso as they would not occur as often making them more palatable. The hardcore supporter will be craving these games (ie derbies) when they come around and it would be a crowd puller.

* 19 rounds a season with everyone playing each other once (quite fair)

* 2 split rounds during season, to make up a 23 week season

* 20 teams and a top 10

* Finals played over 4 weeks

* teams finishing 7-10 play in elimination finals

* teams finishing 3-6 play second chance finals

* teams finishing 1 and 2 get a week off.

* finals format as a final 6 from week two.

* 2 Preliminery finals (same as AFL set up)

* Grand Final to be determined by Club State

* Grand Finals at either Burswood or Adelaide Oval.

Hypothetically (its all hypotheticals I know) all this could be backed up by a Pay Television backing (like the Foxtel Cup but obviously a larger format) with sponsorship that would clearly be attracted to such a product.

Retaining the ABCTV Saturday afternoon telecasts, which are very prominent today in both South Australia and Western Australia. This concept would give the ABC a real reason to not only continue, but beef up their broadcasts given the national theme and involvement of AFL seconds clubs.

And their could be the likelihood of a commercial network getting involved (Free to Air) like a channel 9 or 10, given they have no rights to AFL anymore. They would clearly be interested in such a league.

It all points to added interest, added attraction, better crowds, better perceptions, expanding sponsorships for all, extra revenue for the league and the clubs themselves, future sustainability. And it creates a better product, keeps the history of all clubs continuing & it will always be a family and working mans football completion.

I will reiterate, such a format should be looked into in a viability sense if nothing else.

Done

sounds good mate

But I would like to see a few WAFL clubs merge to make it financially viable, biggest sponsors - very costly with travel mate

Simple market and pormote the feature games and players. A bit of on field controvesery doesnt hurt either.

Bazza wrote: sounds good mate

But I would like to see a few WAFL clubs merge to make it financially viable, biggest sponsors - very costly with travel mate

travel costs would be a big part of the exercise as to whether its viable. However with increased profile comes higher revenue, better crowds and in turn - money.

we would be talking a serious change all lines of thinking if it were to become a reality. Clubs would eventually have full time staff too, thinking long term.

The idea is one thing, but first it needs smart heads to cost and package it. Travel is just one part.