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swan42 wrote:

UNKA2 wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Grassy wrote: Couldn't give a fig what his son does.

He ain't in Parliament.Just so long as the Media doesn't try and tie him in as a Window dresser for Col's image,....

The thing about Elections in the past 5 - 10 years that drives me stark raving,is the endless weeks and months political parties do go on and campaign,then a week or so out,they give their official launch.

Wtf?Has that practice been a long standing one,or is this a new trend(of them patting themselves on the back)?

There is a simple explanation for the lateness of the official launch dates. Up to that point in time the parties do not have to pay for the travel.

As for Emperor Barnett's disgraceful comments that Pauline Hanson has changed from the first version of One Nation. She was a racist then and she is a racist now.

She also speaks for what a lot of middle Australia want to hear. Where was she racist??

How about to paraphrase:

One Nation version 1: Australia is being overrun by Asians.

One Nation version 2: Australia is being overrun by Muslims.

Wow now Muslims is a race eh??

swan42 wrote:

Bazza wrote: Suck it up swan shes back, and so is one nation , like it or not, the right is on the march all over the western world, your lot have had their day.

Clinton receive MORE THAN 2 million more votes than Trump.

Like here , means nothing if you don't get em where they count, suck it up.

swan42 wrote:

UNKA2 wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Grassy wrote: Couldn't give a fig what his son does.

He ain't in Parliament.Just so long as the Media doesn't try and tie him in as a Window dresser for Col's image,....

The thing about Elections in the past 5 - 10 years that drives me stark raving,is the endless weeks and months political parties do go on and campaign,then a week or so out,they give their official launch.

Wtf?Has that practice been a long standing one,or is this a new trend(of them patting themselves on the back)?

There is a simple explanation for the lateness of the official launch dates. Up to that point in time the parties do not have to pay for the travel.

As for Emperor Barnett's disgraceful comments that Pauline Hanson has changed from the first version of One Nation. She was a racist then and she is a racist now.

She also speaks for what a lot of middle Australia want to hear. Where was she racist??

How about to paraphrase:

One Nation version 1: Australia is being overrun by Asians.

One Nation version 2: Australia is being overrun by Muslims.

1. She was right about point 1, visit Sydney and Melbourne..check DIMA stats.

2. Muslim is not a race its a religion...she would be better to focus on the impact of China on Australia.

Grassy wrote: Oh Dear,Commissioner O'Callaghan is getting all Socioligied on us Again,instead of backing his Police Service in for greater numbers 1st!

Unless you feel the need for more Social and Mental Health Workers is for your Burnt out Officers Commissioner?

What about you Minister?

Have you delivered on your Government's promise of 500 Extra Officers,what,4 years ago,Minister?Or was it 8?

Still waiting on that Broken Promise as it stands now!

They actually have enough sworn officers, the problem is they have far to many stuck in jobs coppers should not be doing.

What WAPOL need is funding for about 500 public servants/support staff to get sworn officers on the street and out of offices and courts.

employ another 500 police officers and they will be sucked into non op roles again.

ArkRoyal wrote: neither Clinton, nor Trump are not left-wing, goodness me. Curtin and Attlee were left-wing and believed in principles, such as,

government intervention
welfare state
restrictions on trade
the gold standard
sensible defence and foreign polices --- Attlee and Bevin founded NATO dragging the yanks with them
immigration restrictions

if the left returns to those principles it will have a hope of winning elections in the future; failure to do so will mean defeat is heapped upon defeat after defeat. Today the British labour party is discussing the very issue of immigration restrictions, because, as most of us know, they are in big trouble.

Traditionally the ALP and the union movement in Australia were the strongest supporters of the White Australia policy , Caldwell , Chifley and Curtin all supported it as did the Union Movement in order to protect workers pay and conditions from imported cheap labour, however Caldwell and Chifley were strong supporters of post war migration , populate of perish from Europe. Initially the large numbers of Italians and Greeks were not popular and Caldwell almost had to hault to scheme, instead he moved to the Baltic states and brought blonde good looking Latvians, Estonians Poles etc which smoothed things over for the media.

Your right and wrong about Clinton, the US has not had a "socialist" party in the same way as the UK and Australia, Left wing is termed "Liberal" in the US, it has a blend of Leftist and socially "liberal" policies

i.e. Increased Welfare spending, national health schemes (Obama care) high taxing, reduced defence spending, bigger government, regulation, pro black rights, pro gay rights, pro abortion, pro immigrants, globalism, they do have some more free market capitalistic tendencies free trade, lower tariffs etc. but these were all embraced by Australian Labor under Hawke and Keating anyway.

And they were hardly left wing anyway in the 50s and 60s, Menzies and the Liberals and Country supported Protectionism through the same period , Black Jack McEwen Country Party Leader, probably one of the most skilled pollies this country has had was a fierce supporter of agricultural tariffs.

As for going back to tariffs protectionism and the gold standard, you might as well go back to pre black and white TV days and the wireless, the gold standard ended when the Bretton Woods agreement collapsed in the wake of the Vietnam War.

Bazza wrote:

swan42 wrote:

UNKA2 wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Grassy wrote: Couldn't give a fig what his son does.

He ain't in Parliament.Just so long as the Media doesn't try and tie him in as a Window dresser for Col's image,....

The thing about Elections in the past 5 - 10 years that drives me stark raving,is the endless weeks and months political parties do go on and campaign,then a week or so out,they give their official launch.

Wtf?Has that practice been a long standing one,or is this a new trend(of them patting themselves on the back)?

There is a simple explanation for the lateness of the official launch dates. Up to that point in time the parties do not have to pay for the travel.

As for Emperor Barnett's disgraceful comments that Pauline Hanson has changed from the first version of One Nation. She was a racist then and she is a racist now.

She also speaks for what a lot of middle Australia want to hear. Where was she racist??

How about to paraphrase:

One Nation version 1: Australia is being overrun by Asians.

One Nation version 2: Australia is being overrun by Muslims.

1. She was right about point 1, visit Sydney and Melbourne..check DIMA stats.

2. Muslim is not a race its a religion...she would be better to focus on the impact of China on Australia.

Bazza I have visited Sydney and Melbourne many, many times over the years. What is your point? Perhaps you can provide me with a link to the ABS Census data to show that the percentage of Asians origin is in excess of those from the United Kingdom and/or Ireland. If however there is no such link, how do you substantiate the claim that Australia is being overrun by Asians?

Also, for those who suggest that "Asians should assimilate" I trust they also advocate the banning of such non-assimilated associations as the Italian Club, the Hellenic Club etc. and they also advocate the prohibition of celebrating the Catholic Mass in such languages as Italian, Polish, Croatian, Mandarin, Spanish, Tamil, Korean, Vietnamese, Indonesian, Lithuanian, Portuguese, Latin etc. that currently occurs in the Perth Archdiocese.

For the record I do not support the prohibition of the above; I merely am pointing out that one could construe same as non-assimilation.

When was the last time you were in Sydney - 1967?

I know you live under a rock , but you really need to catch up on recent stats.

www.afr.com/business/our-complex-relatio...ians-20151227-glvgml

Any you have spewed that mindless diatribe about foreign languages before. What people do in the private domain , at home in worship etc is different to the public domain, mind you given the recent events there is a good argument to ban Arabic in mosques.

MEDIA RELEASE


30 March 2016
Embargo: 11.30am (Canberra Time)

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Overseas born Aussies highest in over a century

The proportion of Australians who were born overseas has hit its highest point in over 120 years, with 28 per cent of Australia's population born overseas, according to figures released today by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS).

"Australia has traditionally had a high proportion of migrants, but we've now hit a peak not seen since the late 1800s," said Beidar Cho from the ABS.

The percentage of Australian residents born overseas has increased every year for the last 15 years.

"The number of Australian residents born in India has almost tripled over the last 10 years and residents born in China have more than doubled in this time."

The change in our migrant mix can best be observed in the differences in median age of certain groups.

"Migrants born in Italy, for example, had a median age of 64.7 years in 2005. This increased to 69.3 years in 2015 - indicating a drop in recent migration and the aging of existing migrants," said Ms Cho.

"On the other hand, migrants from our Asian neighbours, such as India, have seen a reduction in median age from 37 years in 2005 to 33.4 years in 2015."

Baz: I would make a distinction between the 'old left' and 'new left'; the 'new left' is a strange mixture of liberalism, feminism, environmentalism, little of which the 'old left' would tolerate. Her only 'old left' policy was Obama Care'; also, keep in mind, that, on foreign policy, she was a neo-Conservative, little different to GW Bush.

As for Socialism in America, it has always existed, from the Progressives at the turn of the century to Harry Truman and LBJ, whom as you know, referred to himself as a Socialist, and set up 'the Great Society'. The reasons Truman never set up an NHS after the war, was because of the doctor's association, the red scare and Henry Ford oppossed it; in order to discourage Truman form acting, he startted to pay his workers health care benefits.

The White Australia was supportted by the UAP/Liberals because it kept the country British. Calwell only got away with letting in the Dispalced people because he promised that for every one foreigner, there would be nine British immigrants.

You are, of course, 100 per cent correct on the ALP and the White Australia Policy -- it was designed to keep wages artificially high in the country.

The White Australia policy served its purpose -- although the British government opposed it as did a minority of Anglo-Australians -- but by the mid 60s, had to be changed for moral reasons and foreign policy reasons. The debate in Australia on migration should be about the degree of assimilation within multiethnic and cultural diversity. Both major parties should have the courage to discuss the question in that framework.

Bazza wrote: When was the last time you were in Sydney - 1967?

I know you live under a rock , but you really need to catch up on recent stats.

www.afr.com/business/our-complex-relatio...ians-20151227-glvgml

Any you have spewed that mindless diatribe about foreign languages before. What people do in the private domain , at home in worship etc is different to the public domain, mind you given the recent events there is a good argument to ban Arabic in mosques.

October, 2017.