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Given the topical nature of this subject at the moment, I'd be interested in the views of posters on here around the death penalty and laws of other countries. I'm not about to discuss in detail the obvious plight of the 2 Australians currently as I don't think that would be in very good taste but it does raise questions about the sovereign right of countries to make laws as they see fit and for us to question them whenever it involves Australians (Barlow and Chambers for example). I for one, don't support the death penalty be it in Malaysia, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia or the US for that matter....but I am struggling to find sympathy for those who break the law and knowingly risk facing a firing squad or the like. It isn't all that hard ... if you don't want to be executed...don't do the crime. Perhaps I'm missing something and would appreciate any comments. Oh...and btw, if the mods on here thought this topic to be inappropriate at the minute then I won't be offended if it's taken off but thought it's something Australians face every day overseas and doubt very much officials from "interested" countries would log onto OzFooty to check out everyone's views.

BC wrote: Given the topical nature of this subject at the moment, I'd be interested in the views of posters on here around the death penalty and laws of other countries. I'm not about to discuss in detail the obvious plight of the 2 Australians currently as I don't think that would be in very good taste but it does raise questions about the sovereign right of countries to make laws as they see fit and for us to question them whenever it involves Australians (Barlow and Chambers for example). I for one, don't support the death penalty be it in Malaysia, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia or the US for that matter....but I am struggling to find sympathy for those who break the law and knowingly risk facing a firing squad or the like. It isn't all that hard ... if you don't want to be executed...don't do the crime. Perhaps I'm missing something and would appreciate any comments. Oh...and btw, if the mods on here thought this topic to be inappropriate at the minute then I won't be offended if it's taken off but thought it's something Australians face every day overseas and doubt very much officials from "interested" countries would log onto OzFooty to check out everyone's views.

When in Rome, do as the Romans do. SIMPLE

I support the death penalty in limited circumstances.

In this case my attitude is if you take the chance , wear the consquences, I also think there should be a limit on the amount of tax payers dollars spent on legal costs and lobbying of Foreign Govs. For mine after 10 years the Australian Gov, should now have no further involvement.

The way I see it is:

It is well documented and well known that certain countries offer a death penalty for various crimes. If you import a drug to a country that offers a death penalty for importing drugs, and you get caught, then IMO you dont have a leg to stand on. They are only ever in it for a quick dollar so you have to suffer the consequences of your actions no matter what your or other peoples opinions are on the laws.

In saying that I do believe that the death penalty for drugs is a 'bit' overboard and it also baffles me that you can get the death penalty for importing drugs, but you can blow up hundreds of people and see out your life in jail.

I am unsure what I think of the death penalty for people who either murder or rape. On one hand they destroy or end someones life so should it be eye for an eye? But on the other hand, people get wrongfully convicted regularly so you wouldnt want to send someone to the chair only to find out years down the track that you got the wrong person.

What I find interesting is the limited amount of posts on this topic, which pretty much confirms my belief that most people actually don't care about their fate.

yes...i think you're right Bazza...must people are apathetic until it happens to them or someone they know...

I think you summed it up perfectly in the first post Bazza, its been 10 years and I reckon most people are sick of hearing about the Bali 9, similar to how they feel about the Corbies every time they are in the news......Were over it, you got yourself into this shit, you get yourself out of it.......

The media who care not, see milage in the story. Then every no-name wants thier name up there to pretend they care too.
Reminds of the hunger strikes and other "sensationalist" actions of the refugees and thier band of merry men/women. More "stories" come out yet, no matter what,"they" cant get any momentum with the general public!!

Not everyone has your opinions, I for one am happy that we are kept up on what is happening to these people. As for the death penalty, generally I am against it - it's a penalty that is final an sometimes dispensed incorrectly and there's no going back. For people like the nutter in Sydney recently, yes...death penalty. But as for the Bali nine, is their crime worse than the pricks that carried out the Bali bombings earlier this century? I don't think so, yet these pricks are being let out to do it all over again. Indo needs a bit of equality in sentencing.

58shark wrote: Not everyone has your opinions, I for one am happy that we are kept up on what is happening to these people. As for the death penalty, generally I am against it - it's a penalty that is final an sometimes dispensed incorrectly and there's no going back. For people like the nutter in Sydney recently, yes...death penalty. But as for the Bali nine, is their crime worse than the pricks that carried out the Bali bombings earlier this century? I don't think so, yet these pricks are being let out to do it all over again. Indo needs a bit of equality in sentencing.

They tell us not for OUR benefit ( though they will play this card) more for thier "story" and ensuing ratings /benefits), disgusts me really.
As for the "comparison" between crimes, THAT is not the point IMHO. The sighns are there for all to see ( be they right or wrong). Not saying i agree with the rule/s BUT they are the rules.Not that difficult to take in i wouldnt think.