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I've changed my mind. I want the death penalty back and the first aholes to go will be anyone involved in the live baiting episodes.

58shark wrote: I've changed my mind. I want the death penalty back and the first aholes to go will be anyone involved in the live baiting episodes.

...and with those things the so called "people in charge" who knew, but turned a blind eye, are arguably worse!!

A good article today that says it all..From the THE DRUM. part of the article that sums it up

Our hypocrisy in the face of state murder will be made plain by warm relations with a Saudi Arabian government that happily stones women to death or hacks off their heads for sorcery. It will be there in our readiness to forgive a Chinese government that kills thousands each year and keeps no accounting of their deaths. And there too as we look out on the 3035 Americans on death row as at last October, without making so much as a peep of protest.

www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-19/green-wha...heroin-trade/6144348

Find below an extract from this article of Drug Deaths in 2004/2005/// The year they were arrested CLICK ON IMAGE FOR LLARGER VIEW

58shark wrote: I've changed my mind. I want the death penalty back and the first aholes to go will be anyone involved in the live baiting episodes.

This has been going on for decades. I heard about it from a dog trainer in late 1960's. So whats new. Has Bill Shorten condemned it?

I thought Tony was very, very, very ordinary bringing up the subject of the aid we gave to Indonesia after the tsunami. That's another gaffe Tony and was uncalled for.

58shark wrote: I thought Tony was very, very, very ordinary bringing up the subject of the aid we gave to Indonesia after the tsunami. That's another gaffe Tony and was uncalled for.

Agree, as if THAT sort of comment is going to help. Serioulsy ya dont threaten Indonesia!!

UNKA2 wrote:

58shark wrote: I thought Tony was very, very, very ordinary bringing up the subject of the aid we gave to Indonesia after the tsunami. That's another gaffe Tony and was uncalled for.

Agree, as if THAT sort of comment is going to help. Serioulsy ya dont threaten Indonesia!!

It's not just the threat unk. It's like pulling a drowning person out of the water and telling them that they now owe you a favour.

58shark wrote:

UNKA2 wrote:

58shark wrote: I thought Tony was very, very, very ordinary bringing up the subject of the aid we gave to Indonesia after the tsunami. That's another gaffe Tony and was uncalled for.

Agree, as if THAT sort of comment is going to help. Serioulsy ya dont threaten Indonesia!!

It's not just the threat unk. It's like pulling a drowning person out of the water and telling them that they now owe you a favour.

Good analogy 58

58shark wrote:

UNKA2 wrote:

58shark wrote: I thought Tony was very, very, very ordinary bringing up the subject of the aid we gave to Indonesia after the tsunami. That's another gaffe Tony and was uncalled for.

Agree, as if THAT sort of comment is going to help. Serioulsy ya dont threaten Indonesia!!

It's not just the threat unk. It's like pulling a drowning person out of the water and telling them that they now owe you a favour.

Read an article about ACEH after the Tsunami a week ago where a lot of the people never had homes rebuilt and ended up trying to rebuild their own. According to the article there was a lot of corruption and the Mayor and governor of Aceh did alright out of it!!!
Indonesia really were not interested as Aceh was and is a thorn in their side as they wanted independence. Didnt really give a fuck about the people..
Maybe Tony isnt aware of this but still used it as a point which was totally uncalled for in regard to these 2 Losers and has nothing to do with the issue.

Fark he has lost a lot of credibility from these remarks.

Maybe he should make a issue of where all the money went? Now that would be a legitimate complaint worth following up.
We all know corruption is rife in Indonesia as it is in all Asian countries and many others but then again this is not the ISSUE!!

Leather Stops wrote:

58shark wrote: I've changed my mind. I want the death penalty back and the first aholes to go will be anyone involved in the live baiting episodes.

This has been going on for decades. I heard about it from a dog trainer in late 1960's. So whats new. Has Bill Shorten condemned it?

Whats new is its not only illegal but classed as cheating and despite this the useless pricks supposed to be running the "sport" have done SFA to enforce the rules worst still have actually been implicated in cheating due to the fact that someone actually carried out an investigation that they were to corrupt to do.