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Bazza wrote:

swan42 wrote:

BC wrote: ...and my question to you 42...notwithstanding you're not a fan of Abbott or the Libs...would you be sacking an incumbent PM at this point given the chaos of the Gillard/Rudd era and how it came back to bite both on the ar$e?

It is a moot point. One observation would be that if the Liberals had supported the mandate that the ALP received when they won the 2007 Federal election they would have passed the ETS legislation. If that have been done the replacing of Rudd would not have occurred. Apparently it is only a mandate if the Libs and Nats win government.

The second observation is that I like the cute gymnastics that some Liberals are indulging in when they talk about replacing a PM in his first term; the reality is that they replaced Gorton, a sitting PM, with silly Billy McMahon.

With respect to Turnbull, I can't see how they can elect him as leader without supporting an ETS. J Bishop has demonstrated her loyalty by being deputy to three different leaders. As for Morrison the perception, and I would argue the reality, about the 2014 budget was that it was singularly unfair and hurt lower income families compared to the well off in our society; the election of S Morrison would escalate that perception by a factor of 10.

J Hockey is damaged goods never to recover.

Your side could always select B Bishop, or get B Joyce to change camps.

I hope that helps.

Gorton wasnt unseated in the ballot, he resigned, no gymnsatics there.

Forget Morrison Hocket et all they are not even on the radar that is more than obvious.

It will be Bishop or Turnbull, Bishop for mine the most obvious, although if Turnbull gets in Shorten might as well give up now he will wipe the floor with him, such is his popularity in the middle ground.

ETS or no ETS. Theres bugger all votes in climate change , its all about the economy from here on in.

Afraid not Bazza: there was a ballot.

Afraid not of what ?? he didnt lose but chose to resign HIMSELF, that is clearly not losing and getting the boot.

Gorton called a Liberal caucus meeting to settle the matter. A motion of confidence in his leadership was tied. Under Liberal caucus rules of the time, a tied vote meant the motion was lost, and hence Gorton could have remained as party leader and Prime Minister without further ado. However, he took it upon himself to resign, saying "Well, that is not a vote of confidence, so the party will have to elect a new leader."[

% down - you ripper.

Apparently Julie Bishop is a lawyer. Not sure whether that's good or bad?
www.news.com.au/national/julie-bishop-re...cynjr2-1227205864761

westaussieguy wrote: Apparently Julie Bishop is a lawyer. Not sure whether that's good or bad?
www.news.com.au/national/julie-bishop-re...cynjr2-1227205864761

Yes mate, worked here in Perth as a Lawyer.

Mate just about all of them are, Turnbull, Hockey, Howard, Menzies - all lawyers.

Did you know if she gets it, it will be the first WA PM since Curtin in WW 2.

Sounds like the challenge could be on sooner rather than later.

Personally speaking, can't see the good of a leadership challenge and probable replacement. We don't seem to have the quality people in parliament these days. If a leadership challenge is in the pipeline, it would need to happen sooner rather than later. If a new leader is elected, what leadership skills do they possess?

Looks like another blackest day in Australian Politics in the slow news month of February is being championed by yet another frenzied media attack.

Dirty Weekender wrote: Looks like another blackest day in Australian Politics in the slow news month of February is being championed by yet another frenzied media attack.

Yep the savage media cycle these days is ruthless, Wtf is the story with this Dennis Jensen prawn he goes around crapping on leaders on a regular basis.

In circumstances where hard decisions have to be made I'd take the bloke leading the country now over ANY of the current crop.
As for the economy I agree with much of the sentiment discussed as to our misguided sense of self-entitlement.
It is far easier for Politicians to step away from the hard economic decisions and always pander to political sentiment. If that is what we all want then move over Greece because it appears the Australian voting public couldn't care less about enduring a little pain and leaving a strong and robust economy for its future generations.
When Australia suffers its next serious extremist attack, which God help us, now seems inevitable, people won't give two stuffs about whether Prince Philip got a Knighthood. We will want strong leadership.
God help us if Shorten & Co are at the helm if that happens.

The Preacher wrote: In circumstances where hard decisions have to be made I'd take the bloke leading the country now over ANY of the current crop.
As for the economy I agree with much of the sentiment discussed as to our misguided sense of self-entitlement.
It is far easier for Politicians to step away from the hard economic decisions and always pander to political sentiment. If that is what we all want then move over Greece because it appears the Australian voting public couldn't care less about enduring a little pain and leaving a strong and robust economy for its future generations.
When Australia suffers its next serious extremist attack, which God help us, now seems inevitable, people won't give two stuffs about whether Prince Philip got a Knighthood. We will want strong leadership.
God help us if Shorten & Co are at the helm if that happens.

Well said Preacher.

I was just thinking, we currently have the lowest Homeloand rates since 1968, Lowest Petrol prices in 6 years, a strong stock market with solid super gains, the boat arrivals issue was solved long ago, a lowering dollar giving a boast to Exporters and local Tourism and our Foreign students education sector, good trade deals with big nations, our unemployment rate although its risen is still very low by OECD standards, we have good international standing with the way we lead the Ukraine Jet disaster, Power bills are down with no carbon tax, mining which is under pressure at the moment has been releived of the mining tax, there has not been a Pink Batts shambles...

Yet the media a having a fit over this phillip knighthood rubbish which on the sale of things is a non issue.

Things are actually pretty good for most people with reducing costs of living and less day to day pressure as well decent gains in equities.