Notice: Undefined variable: ub in /home/dh_ingvwb/ozfooty.net/templates/hot_cars/js/browser.php on line 53

Notice: Undefined variable: ub in /home/dh_ingvwb/ozfooty.net/templates/hot_cars/js/browser.php on line 65

Deprecated: strripos(): Non-string needles will be interpreted as strings in the future. Use an explicit chr() call to preserve the current behavior in /home/dh_ingvwb/ozfooty.net/templates/hot_cars/js/browser.php on line 65
Welcome, Member
Username: Password: Remember me

TOPIC:

Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186787

  • Ti Em
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 1759
  • Thank you received: 250

SuperDude wrote:

Time For a Flag wrote: As the great philosopher Doris Day once told us, “The future’s not ours to see.” The idea that some people can predict what will happen next is mostly an illusion.

Optimists, those who think tomorrow will be fine, are almost always right — but when they are wrong, it’s because there’s a catastrophe and all those fine days they correctly predicted are forgotten. How could they have been so stupid as to have not seen this coming? Pessimists are usually wrong, but they will always be right eventually, and when they finally are right, we forget the 47 World Wars, 32 Apocalypses and 17 plagues they predicted wrongly, and we marvel at their foresight in spotting the current disaster before it hit.

All of which is to say that bad events affect our perceptions more than good events. This is probably a nasty but useful little gift from our old friend evolution, which whispers in our ear: “Good days come and go but death is permanent, so pay more attention to death.”

Most of the coverage of our present circumstance has been noise; meaningless nonsense. Our left-wing press has labored to make Donald Trump seem short-sighted in not seeing the Chinese Flu coming from afar. No one ever sees anything coming from afar except by chance or by constant negativity that finally hits the jackpot. Trump did fine.

On the Right, there are those who say the lockdown was an error and a few who say it was an evil plot to destroy the economy. They may be right about the error — we won’t know for a while and we may never know. But the fact that most countries shut down proves that it looked like the best idea at the time. Like the 20-20 hindsight media, the angry Right could express more wisdom by being silent.

Now it’s time to reopen with due caution and care. This will cause more flu deaths than if we stayed closed but will prevent other deaths and misery that would be caused by economic collapse.

Trump has got this exactly right. He has called on us to be “warriors,” and like warriors, to face one form of danger, from the Kung Flu, to prevent a greater danger, namely economic collapse. The news media has, you’ll be shocked to learn, attacked Trump for this. But if Barack Obama had said the same thing, Brian Stelter would be sobbing into his blankie at how inspiring it was. The news media is trash.

Thanks to Trump’s federalist approach — his unique and, to my mind, great achievement of not expanding the federal government in a crisis and thus allowing the states to react to local conditions — we have been able to see where good government resides and where it doesn’t.

Governor Cuomo in New York and Governor Wolf in Pennsylvania were incompetent fools who required that nursing homes accept infected people. Thousands died because of them. Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan, Eric Garcetti in Los Angeles, and Bill DeBlasio in New York City are petty tyrants and knuckleheads. It’s not that all their precautions are worthless, it’s that their dictatorial methods are both morally wrong and likely to get bad results.

Greg Abbott in Texas, Brian Kemp in Georgia, Gary Herbert in Utah, Kristi Noem in South Dakota, and many other Governors seem to have acted with good judgement and a steady hand.

What will happen next? I think the economy will reopen whether the overbearing clowns want it to or not. I think people will sue to overturn the diktats of the diktat-makers and will protest to resist their oversteps. I think the flu will become part of our lives but will hopefully be weakened by medicines and by increased immunity.

I hope and suspect Donald Trump will win the next election. He is an eccentric character, but a good president, maybe even a great president. I sure don’t want to be governed by Nancy Pelosi playing socialist ventriloquist to a walking house plant.

If Trump does win, I think the economy will get back on track relatively quickly. I think within two years – by 2022 – we’ll be pushing forward into new territory, barring other disasters.

I think we have learned a lot of things that could be helpful. Now we know Trump was right about China. Because of flu coverage, MeToo coverage, and Obamagate, we’re now certain the news media is useless and must be reformed or replaced. Apparently, we’ve also learned a lot about coronaviruses. It wouldn’t surprise me if we came out of this with a cure for the common cold.

Obviously, other stuff will happen that is bad. This is still Planet Earth. The lockdown of Eden has not been rescinded. But at this moment, looking ahead, I see absolutely no reason for despair and a lot of reason for hope.

But then I’m an optimist. I’m only right almost always. Andrew Klavan

Read it and weep boys, read it and weep


Time for a Fag, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this site is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


TFAF like the unpopular president does not do paragraphs. The author of this piece is optimist Andrew Klavan - you would have to be an optimist to think that the big orange comb-over would do anything but wreck an economy. You give TFAF's ghost post way too much credit when you say everyone on this site has read it. Like anything else that attempts to defend President Snowflake you could read it and dismiss it as crap or you could do the smart thing and not read it and dismiss it as crap.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186788

  • DD
  • DD's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 8363
  • Thank you received: 1359
With respect I find it laughable that people draw parallel comparisons between Australia and the USA when we have merely around 7% of the population of the USA. But some here are expert's in viruses and how to handle it.

By the way, i believe TFAF is a qualified medical professional if I'm not mistaken.
Get on your bike.
It was Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186789

  • Time For a Flag
  • Time For a Flag's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • The VFL is not the AFL
  • Posts: 2070
  • Thank you received: 134

BC wrote: Trump is firmly focussed on re-election and not public health even if it costs lives. If infringing civil liberties saves even one life let alone thousands then so be it.

No economy = no technology, no research, no produce (including medical equipment, antibiotics and the like). Soon there would be bread lines - > Bedlam. Death like you have never seen before will be the result.
Victorians still laugh at West Aussies because of the way we bailed out the vfl and then allowed it to be called it the AFL!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186790

  • Grump
  • Grump's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 3029
  • Thank you received: 381

Time For a Flag wrote:

BC wrote: Trump is firmly focussed on re-election and not public health even if it costs lives. If infringing civil liberties saves even one life let alone thousands then so be it.

No economy = no technology, no research, no produce (including medical equipment, antibiotics and the like). Soon there would be bread lines - > Bedlam. Death like you have never seen before will be the result.

Oh no DD has person another to be a sycophant for!

TFAF may well be a qualified person and he like many have an opinion and as we all know opinions are a dime a dozen and mostly not worth much!

The only thing worth anything these days is hindsight and that has many faces! Just look at what Sweden has done, how it has been handled in the UK and elsewhere. Nearly as many strategies as opinions, sorta like climate change and evolution.

I suspect that folks opinion abt Strumpet is largely based on his apparent buffoonery and self indulgence both characteristics that some find appealing and others find laughable! The thing abt the US is that most folk inside and outside are focusing on the Donald rather than the issues.

Me I am glad I am here and whilst some find the WA strategy draconian I welcome it even if it means I don't get to my son for another 2 years ( he is in London).

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but has one failing it is usually accompanied by its mate blame!
We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won't be offended

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Grump.

Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186793

  • BC
  • BC's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 8990
  • Thank you received: 1553

DD wrote: With respect I find it laughable that people draw parallel comparisons between Australia and the USA when we have merely around 7% of the population of the USA. But some here are expert's in viruses and how to handle it.

By the way, i believe TFAF is a qualified medical professional if I'm not mistaken.


How about this DD....the US has 272 deaths per million of population and we have 4....does that put it into perspective for you?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186805

  • gtrxuone
  • gtrxuone's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 3895
  • Thank you received: 1330
Been a supporter of the Don since he nominated for the Republican nomination. He put his country and his people ahead of the Globalist world order.Who has turned China into a bad toothed monster.
Why I do think the current administration could of and should of handled this better.With the reopening of the US as complete madness.
Let's not forget Obamacare had more holes in it than Swiss Cheese.And Sleepy Joe wants the same again.Only Sanders has a AU+UK type universal health policy on the table.Access to health care is the USA's biggest problem in this pandemic.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186810

  • DD
  • DD's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 8363
  • Thank you received: 1359

BC wrote:

DD wrote: With respect I find it laughable that people draw parallel comparisons between Australia and the USA when we have merely around 7% of the population of the USA. But some here are expert's in viruses and how to handle it.

By the way, i believe TFAF is a qualified medical professional if I'm not mistaken.


How about this DD....the US has 272 deaths per million of population and we have 4....does that put it into perspective for you?

You miss my point BC. There you go again drawing parallel comparisons with a country with roughly 13 times our population that share borders to how many other countries?

You can't make simplistic comparisons like it's apples for apples. Find another country with a similar population to the USA and start your comparison. I believe Russia is now heading into trouble. Start criticising Putin.
Get on your bike.
It was Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by DD.

Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186813

  • BC
  • BC's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 8990
  • Thank you received: 1553
The UK has 508 deaths per 1 million of its population so if someone starts a thread on Boris I'll have a crack at him too.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186818

  • Time For a Flag
  • Time For a Flag's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • The VFL is not the AFL
  • Posts: 2070
  • Thank you received: 134
Open up already
Victorians still laugh at West Aussies because of the way we bailed out the vfl and then allowed it to be called it the AFL!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186830

  • ArkRoyal
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 4985
  • Thank you received: 1215
gtr: correct on Trump -- people sometimes criticise the working class on here for voting for him as though the middle classes don't vote in their own interests. Cheap goods from China are only any use if you have a job to buy them after they are imported.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by ArkRoyal.

Search

Keyword

Who's Online?

We have 509 guests and one member online

  • Whitey

Newest Footy Recruits

  • Lost WAFL
  • Duncs1977
  • MrBulldog2020
  • MrBulldog
  • FremantlesFinest