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Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186639

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Currently sitting behind in the polls but if a second wave hits the US due to opening up too soon, expect to see his ratings take a real dive.

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BC wrote: Currently sitting behind in the polls but if a second wave hits the US due to opening up too soon, expect to see his ratings take a real dive.


Yeah , the bookies have Biden slightly ahead, but given a dud like Clinton was able to win the popular vote by 3 million, and the shambles the place is in at the moment, a second wave rolling on for months , would spell the end of him I would think, I think Biden only needs to pick up three swing states and he is pretty much home.

Biden doesnt inspire me, I reckon he is just to old and out of it to be the best for the job, but the main thing now is to just get someone relatively normal and balanced into the job as its a disaster at the moment, CUOMO will probably have a tilt after one Biden term.

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It's interesting watching the Covid coverage by CNN and Fox News. CNN sticks the knife into Trump at every turn whilst Fox is equally biased towards Trump. It's fun to watch two diametrically opposed views and different takes on the same issue.

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Biden may be old and boring (is he older than the orange baffoon?) but maybe thats exactly what the Seppo's need, a steady hand at the tiller, not someone totally driven by their own maniacal psychopathic ego.

Not that you cant take these things seriously, but the sexual harassment claim that's suddenly popped up against Biden pales into relative insignificance against the raft of claims Trump had denied or paid off.

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When you consider the carnage in other first world modern democracies such as England, US, Spain, Italy then it makes me so thankful I'm an Australian and living here...plus the unilateral co-operation of all sides of politics during this time must make us the envy of the world.

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SS: your absolutely right that Trump has sacked a lot of people mate, but it is not unheard of for a President; Carter sacked his entire cabinet during his administration -- the difference is that the Georgian was /is regarded as good bloke by most of the media.

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Open it up Trumpy. Open it up
Victorians still laugh at West Aussies because of the way we bailed out the vfl and then allowed it to be called it the AFL!

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Senior Seagull wrote: Biden may be old and boring (is he older than the orange baffoon?) but maybe thats exactly what the Seppo's need, a steady hand at the tiller, not someone totally driven by their own maniacal psychopathic ego.

Not that you cant take these things seriously, but the sexual harassment claim that's suddenly popped up against Biden pales into relative insignificance against the raft of claims Trump had denied or paid off.


Yep, look no one could of been as hapless as Trump with this shambles, Biden is old and near on Senile, but I am almost certain he would of done a better job with this. Problem with Trump is he empowers all the wacko conspiracy theorists, gun nuts and just makes thing worse.

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BC wrote: When you consider the carnage in other first world modern democracies such as England, US, Spain, Italy then it makes me so thankful I'm an Australian and living here...plus the unilateral co-operation of all sides of politics during this time must make us the envy of the world.


Check this stark reality out BC.

With 4.25% of the world population, America has the tragic distinction of accounting for about 30% of pandemic deaths so far.
And it is the only advanced nation where the death rate is still climbing. Three thousand deaths per day are anticipated by 1 June.
No other nation has loosened lockdowns and other social-distancing measures while deaths are increasing, as the US is now doing.
No other advanced nation was as unprepared for the pandemic as was the US.
We now know Donald Trump and his administration were told by public health experts in mid-January that immediate action was required to stop the spread of Covid-19. But according to Dr Anthony Fauci, “there was a lot of pushback”. Trump didn’t act until 16 March.
Around the world, governments are providing generous income support. Not in the US
Epidemiologists estimate 90% of the deaths in the US from the first wave of Covid-19 might have been prevented had social distancing policies been put into effect two weeks earlier, on 2 March.
No nation other than the US has left it to subordinate units of government – states and cities – to buy ventilators and personal protective equipment. In no other nation have such sub-governments been forced to bid against each another.
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In no other nation have experts in public health and emergency preparedness been pushed aside and replaced by political cronies like Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who in turn has been advised by Trump donors and Fox News celebrities.
In no other advanced nation has Covid-19 forced so many average citizens into poverty so quickly. The Urban Institute reports that more than 30% of American adults have had to reduce their spending on food.
Elsewhere around the world, governments are providing generous income support. Not in the US.
At best, Americans have received one-time checks for $1,200, about a week’s worth of rent, groceries and utilities. Few are collecting unemployment benefits because unemployment offices are overwhelmed with claims.
Congress’s “payroll protection program” has been a mess. Because funds have been distributed through financial institutions, banks have raked off money for themselves and rewarded their favored customers. Of the $350bn originally intended for small businesses, $243.4m has gone to large, publicly held companies.
Meanwhile, the treasury and the Fed are bailing out big corporations from the debts they accumulated in recent years to buy back their shares of stock.
Why is America so different from other advanced nations facing the same coronavirus threat? Why has everything gone so tragically wrong?
Some of it is due to Trump and his hapless and corrupt collection of grifters, buffoons, sycophants, lobbyists and relatives.
But there are also deeper roots.
American workers are far less unionized than workers in other advanced economies
The coronavirus has been especially potent in the US because America is the only industrialized nation lacking universal healthcare. Many families have been reluctant to see doctors or check into emergency rooms for fear of racking up large bills.
America is also the only one of 22 advanced nations failing to give all workers some form of paid sick leave. As a result, many American workers have remained on the job when they should have been home.
Adding to this is the skimpiness of unemployment benefits in America – providing less support in the first year of unemployment than those in any other advanced country.
American workplaces are also more dangerous. Even before Covid-19 ripped through meatpackers and warehouses, fatality rates were higher among American workers than European.
Even before the pandemic robbed Americans of their jobs and incomes, average wage growth in the US had lagged behind average wage growth in most other advanced countries. Since 1980, American workers’ share of total national income has declined more than in any other rich nation.

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In other nations, unions have long pushed for safer working conditions and higher wages. But American workers are far less unionized than workers in other advanced economies. Only 6.4% of private-sector workers in America belong to a union, compared with more than 26% in Canada, 37% in Italy, 67% in Sweden, and 25% in Britain.
So who and what’s to blame for the worst avoidable loss of life in American history?
Partly, Donald Trump’s malfeasance.
But the calamity is also due to America’s longer-term failure to provide its people the basic support they need.

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Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186700

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BC wrote: It's interesting watching the Covid coverage by CNN and Fox News. CNN sticks the knife into Trump at every turn whilst Fox is equally biased towards Trump. It's fun to watch two diametrically opposed views and different takes on the same issue.


Yeah, I gave Foxtel the flick a while back, I dont miss the tripe on Fox, although I still get CNN I dont really watch them much either, I prefer BBC World , I also get NBC which is quite good fro US Stuff, French News Service is not bad for a different angle, Al Jazera is so so but I take it with a pinch of salt given its Gulf state links.

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