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Bazza wrote:

ArkRoyal wrote: Dare I say it Baz, the ALP was effectively a 'socialism in one country party' in those days. This meant that it had strong nationalist and socialist tendencies; nationalist in the sense of being less dependent on Britain and owning one's own country. This nationalism is what we see in America today with Trump. Curtin would have understood very well.

Trumps a popularist, not a socialist or even a nationalist, he doesn't believe in state ownership, its the free market - he believes in people working for next to nothing, no leave entitlements, having no minimum wage, and no national health system.

Baz-Trumps economic policys are based on the thinking of the 1950's.Wages have to rise to increase consumer spending. With the massive infrastructure spend.It's quiet similar to the Isenhower thinking of that era.

ArkRoyal wrote: he believes in America first where possible, particularly on industry and trade policy -- that is nationalism, not to be confused with nationalisations integral to socialism.

Things where going just fine Ark before
Covid-19.Not quiet sure how he's going to kickstart the economy. But recon he has a plan ready to go post C-19.

gtr: he needs to work with the Democrats on a sort of Marshall Aid, but this time for America, not for Germany. Infrastructure, minimum wages up, more federal help to the unemployed.

ArkRoyal wrote: gtr: he needs to work with the Democrats on a sort of Marshall Aid, but this time for America, not for Germany. Infrastructure, minimum wages up, more federal help to the unemployed.

Thats why he's tried to seal the Southern border Ark.To stop the Mexicans from working in the US.The same reason he didn't sign the TTP.To make more work for Americans.

Bazza wrote:

DD wrote:

Bazza wrote:

BC wrote:

DD wrote: With respect I find it laughable that people draw parallel comparisons between Australia and the USA when we have merely around 7% of the population of the USA. But some here are expert's in viruses and how to handle it.

By the way, i believe TFAF is a qualified medical professional if I'm not mistaken.

How about this DD....the US has 272 deaths per million of population and we have 4....does that put it into perspective for you?

The blokes not great at the maths.

Oh really Einstein? I assume you’ve got something to back that up or it’s a throw away line to dismiss someone with a difference of opinion to you?

Mate, I dont think there would be too many people around that dont know US has a bigger population than us, but its the Per Capita results that count.

I repeat, it is way too simplistic and unrealistic to compare cases and deaths on a per capita basis. There are so many variants such as number of states, ports, airports and borders. And if you remember in the early days they were showing graphs how the multiplier effect increased the spread, then the bigger the population the greater the spread.

We have seen that here in Australia. The highest number of cases has basically been reflected in order of highest population to the smallest.

gtr: yep, of course Sanders believes exactly the same thing; as I have said before, billary, when she was in the Senate, voted for a border wall. This why, had i been PM of Canada, I would never have signed NAFTA, because it encourages jobs to go south to mexico and the US. The New Democrats, in Canada, to this day, oppose the agreement with the Americans, Trump or other wise.

www.ndp.ca/news/ndp-statement-ratification-new-nafta

In 1988, an election fought on NAFTA more Canadians voted for anti treaty parties, but the vote was split between the Liberals and New Democrats, so the tories forced it through parliament (mulroney)

www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jun/2...-border-wall-mexico/

on Billary's voting record see above

I see His Orangeness is taking exception to Twitter because they dared fact check some of his absurd claims...every time I look or listen to this clown I just crack up and think to myself...only in America.

The tweet in question was about protecting himself if he loses the election by bagging the possibility of a full postal vote due to CV19. If he loses it was rigged, if he wins it wont be mentioned. Dead set oxygen thief.

Senior Seagull wrote: The tweet in question was about protecting himself if he loses the election by bagging the possibility of a full postal vote due to CV19. If he loses it was rigged, if he wins it wont be mentioned. Dead set oxygen thief.

The only oxygen thieves right now are you blokes who keep bringing this topic up.

BC wrote: I see His Orangeness is taking exception to Twitter because they dared fact check some of his absurd claims...every time I look or listen to this clown I just crack up and think to myself...only in America.

Yep, same here mate, what about the Murder claim he made about the NBC guy,,,that was outrageous.

The Man has a mental illness I am sure.