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Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186701

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ArkRoyal wrote: SS: your absolutely right that Trump has sacked a lot of people mate, but it is not unheard of for a President; Carter sacked his entire cabinet during his administration -- the difference is that the Georgian was /is regarded as good bloke by most of the media.


Changes in the Public Service and Administration have occured but Trump broke all the records on that a while back.

For example his Cabinet turn over in year 1 was 35%
Ronald Regan was 17% and George Bush Snr was 7%.

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A must read article on Trump's fightback strategy

www.businessinsider.com.au/trump-coronav...obyl-playbook-2020-5

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Don’t miss the line that says the article is from an opinion column. Still, not looking good for the Don.
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good posts Baz
Trump is a typical yank, they don't believe in socialism or centralisation
'internal improvements' are regarded by many in America as merely favouring one state over another. The response has been an American one rather than a Trump one per se. Naturally, as President of the joint he bears a lot of the responsibility.

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Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186779

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As the great philosopher Doris Day once told us, “The future’s not ours to see.” The idea that some people can predict what will happen next is mostly an illusion.

Optimists, those who think tomorrow will be fine, are almost always right — but when they are wrong, it’s because there’s a catastrophe and all those fine days they correctly predicted are forgotten. How could they have been so stupid as to have not seen this coming? Pessimists are usually wrong, but they will always be right eventually, and when they finally are right, we forget the 47 World Wars, 32 Apocalypses and 17 plagues they predicted wrongly, and we marvel at their foresight in spotting the current disaster before it hit.

All of which is to say that bad events affect our perceptions more than good events. This is probably a nasty but useful little gift from our old friend evolution, which whispers in our ear: “Good days come and go but death is permanent, so pay more attention to death.”

Most of the coverage of our present circumstance has been noise; meaningless nonsense. Our left-wing press has labored to make Donald Trump seem short-sighted in not seeing the Chinese Flu coming from afar. No one ever sees anything coming from afar except by chance or by constant negativity that finally hits the jackpot. Trump did fine.

On the Right, there are those who say the lockdown was an error and a few who say it was an evil plot to destroy the economy. They may be right about the error — we won’t know for a while and we may never know. But the fact that most countries shut down proves that it looked like the best idea at the time. Like the 20-20 hindsight media, the angry Right could express more wisdom by being silent.

Now it’s time to reopen with due caution and care. This will cause more flu deaths than if we stayed closed but will prevent other deaths and misery that would be caused by economic collapse.

Trump has got this exactly right. He has called on us to be “warriors,” and like warriors, to face one form of danger, from the Kung Flu, to prevent a greater danger, namely economic collapse. The news media has, you’ll be shocked to learn, attacked Trump for this. But if Barack Obama had said the same thing, Brian Stelter would be sobbing into his blankie at how inspiring it was. The news media is trash.

Thanks to Trump’s federalist approach — his unique and, to my mind, great achievement of not expanding the federal government in a crisis and thus allowing the states to react to local conditions — we have been able to see where good government resides and where it doesn’t.

Governor Cuomo in New York and Governor Wolf in Pennsylvania were incompetent fools who required that nursing homes accept infected people. Thousands died because of them. Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan, Eric Garcetti in Los Angeles, and Bill DeBlasio in New York City are petty tyrants and knuckleheads. It’s not that all their precautions are worthless, it’s that their dictatorial methods are both morally wrong and likely to get bad results.

Greg Abbott in Texas, Brian Kemp in Georgia, Gary Herbert in Utah, Kristi Noem in South Dakota, and many other Governors seem to have acted with good judgement and a steady hand.

What will happen next? I think the economy will reopen whether the overbearing clowns want it to or not. I think people will sue to overturn the diktats of the diktat-makers and will protest to resist their oversteps. I think the flu will become part of our lives but will hopefully be weakened by medicines and by increased immunity.

I hope and suspect Donald Trump will win the next election. He is an eccentric character, but a good president, maybe even a great president. I sure don’t want to be governed by Nancy Pelosi playing socialist ventriloquist to a walking house plant.

If Trump does win, I think the economy will get back on track relatively quickly. I think within two years – by 2022 – we’ll be pushing forward into new territory, barring other disasters.

I think we have learned a lot of things that could be helpful. Now we know Trump was right about China. Because of flu coverage, MeToo coverage, and Obamagate, we’re now certain the news media is useless and must be reformed or replaced. Apparently, we’ve also learned a lot about coronaviruses. It wouldn’t surprise me if we came out of this with a cure for the common cold.

Obviously, other stuff will happen that is bad. This is still Planet Earth. The lockdown of Eden has not been rescinded. But at this moment, looking ahead, I see absolutely no reason for despair and a lot of reason for hope.

But then I’m an optimist. I’m only right almost always. Andrew Klavan

Read it and weep boys, read it and weep
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I've never read so much drivel in all my life. The US has 14 times our population but almost 900 times our death rate. Even the BMA in Lancet magazine has taken aim at the Trump administration for its response to the situation. Biden doesn't have to do any campaigning in the election, he just needs to keep running Trump's miss-steps over and over on electronic media as they're a never ending gift from heaven. The effect of opening up of states in the US won't materialise for a couple of weeks and my guess is we won't see a second wave as the first wave hasn't finished yet.

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BC wrote: I've never read so much drivel in all my life. The US has 14 times our population but almost 900 times our death rate. Even the BMA in Lancet magazine has taken aim at the Trump administration for its response to the situation. Biden doesn't have to do any campaigning in the election, he just needs to keep running Trump's miss-steps over and over on electronic media as they're a never ending gift from heaven. The effect of opening up of states in the US won't materialise for a couple of weeks and my guess is we won't see a second wave as the first wave hasn't finished yet.

No Uniformity in counting BC. Political forces at play everywhere. Lets not hide in corners over something that is very little understood. Let us certainly not infringe on civil liberties. They are important after all. Anyway Perth and Freo for the 2020 Flag for mine
Victorians still laugh at West Aussies because of the way we bailed out the vfl and then allowed it to be called it the AFL!

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Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186782

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Time For a Flag wrote: Anyway Perth and Freo for the 2020 Flag for mine


What clearer description of a disconnection from reality could you ask for? :P

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Trump is firmly focussed on re-election and not public health even if it costs lives. If infringing civil liberties saves even one life let alone thousands then so be it.

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Trumps pathetic virus response 3 years 11 months ago #186785

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Time For a Flag wrote: As the great philosopher Doris Day once told us, “The future’s not ours to see.” The idea that some people can predict what will happen next is mostly an illusion.

Optimists, those who think tomorrow will be fine, are almost always right — but when they are wrong, it’s because there’s a catastrophe and all those fine days they correctly predicted are forgotten. How could they have been so stupid as to have not seen this coming? Pessimists are usually wrong, but they will always be right eventually, and when they finally are right, we forget the 47 World Wars, 32 Apocalypses and 17 plagues they predicted wrongly, and we marvel at their foresight in spotting the current disaster before it hit.

All of which is to say that bad events affect our perceptions more than good events. This is probably a nasty but useful little gift from our old friend evolution, which whispers in our ear: “Good days come and go but death is permanent, so pay more attention to death.”

Most of the coverage of our present circumstance has been noise; meaningless nonsense. Our left-wing press has labored to make Donald Trump seem short-sighted in not seeing the Chinese Flu coming from afar. No one ever sees anything coming from afar except by chance or by constant negativity that finally hits the jackpot. Trump did fine.

On the Right, there are those who say the lockdown was an error and a few who say it was an evil plot to destroy the economy. They may be right about the error — we won’t know for a while and we may never know. But the fact that most countries shut down proves that it looked like the best idea at the time. Like the 20-20 hindsight media, the angry Right could express more wisdom by being silent.

Now it’s time to reopen with due caution and care. This will cause more flu deaths than if we stayed closed but will prevent other deaths and misery that would be caused by economic collapse.

Trump has got this exactly right. He has called on us to be “warriors,” and like warriors, to face one form of danger, from the Kung Flu, to prevent a greater danger, namely economic collapse. The news media has, you’ll be shocked to learn, attacked Trump for this. But if Barack Obama had said the same thing, Brian Stelter would be sobbing into his blankie at how inspiring it was. The news media is trash.

Thanks to Trump’s federalist approach — his unique and, to my mind, great achievement of not expanding the federal government in a crisis and thus allowing the states to react to local conditions — we have been able to see where good government resides and where it doesn’t.

Governor Cuomo in New York and Governor Wolf in Pennsylvania were incompetent fools who required that nursing homes accept infected people. Thousands died because of them. Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan, Eric Garcetti in Los Angeles, and Bill DeBlasio in New York City are petty tyrants and knuckleheads. It’s not that all their precautions are worthless, it’s that their dictatorial methods are both morally wrong and likely to get bad results.

Greg Abbott in Texas, Brian Kemp in Georgia, Gary Herbert in Utah, Kristi Noem in South Dakota, and many other Governors seem to have acted with good judgement and a steady hand.

What will happen next? I think the economy will reopen whether the overbearing clowns want it to or not. I think people will sue to overturn the diktats of the diktat-makers and will protest to resist their oversteps. I think the flu will become part of our lives but will hopefully be weakened by medicines and by increased immunity.

I hope and suspect Donald Trump will win the next election. He is an eccentric character, but a good president, maybe even a great president. I sure don’t want to be governed by Nancy Pelosi playing socialist ventriloquist to a walking house plant.

If Trump does win, I think the economy will get back on track relatively quickly. I think within two years – by 2022 – we’ll be pushing forward into new territory, barring other disasters.

I think we have learned a lot of things that could be helpful. Now we know Trump was right about China. Because of flu coverage, MeToo coverage, and Obamagate, we’re now certain the news media is useless and must be reformed or replaced. Apparently, we’ve also learned a lot about coronaviruses. It wouldn’t surprise me if we came out of this with a cure for the common cold.

Obviously, other stuff will happen that is bad. This is still Planet Earth. The lockdown of Eden has not been rescinded. But at this moment, looking ahead, I see absolutely no reason for despair and a lot of reason for hope.

But then I’m an optimist. I’m only right almost always. Andrew Klavan

Read it and weep boys, read it and weep


Time for a Fag, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this site is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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