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Bazza wrote:

mikeh wrote:

Bazza wrote:

mikeh wrote:

Senior Seagull wrote:

Larry Bird wrote: Top four best supported clubs this season with one game left.
1. EP 43,060
2. WP 42,488
3. EF 41,015
4. SF 40,300

Carefull LB you might disturb the fanatical backslapping circle jerk that's going on in the Swans thread!! Plus they will quickly point out it's the swans travelling supporters that flood other teams home games that create those numbers.

That 'Circle Jerk' as you call it SS was actually triggered by an ABC commentator who is actually a Claremont supporter who stated that his trip to Bassendean Oval was the highlight of his sports broadcasting career. Hardly a biased backslapper now eh? You can hide behind numbers all you want but you can't quantify passion and that's what Swans fans have in bucket loads.

Every club has passion , SDFC certainly dont have a mortgage on that, one club that amazes me is Perth 30 odd years of failure yet they have the busiest thread on this board.

I beg to differ. I doubt if you would have seen scenes anything like what happened at Bassendean on Saturday at any other WAFL ground, with the possible exception of West Perth.

Mate , thats bugger all when it comes to passion, freo derby rivalry is true wafl passion and puts paid to anything Swans can muster, I have been to derbies were the atmosphere is PUMPED with passion, I think your just a tad bias in your assesment. SDFC is no big deal, I mean look at the bitterness between WP and EP. SD problem is they have never really had an intense cross town rival and came into the comp late so the history is not really there. As for passsion and commitment as I say you cant go past the poor Sods at Perth, they still keep it burning. But I guess its better to bank on the swans myth using passion as a measure becuase unlike crowd numbers which can be measured and swans cannot compete passion is a subjective mythical thing that suits the swans narrative.

Were you at Bassendean on Saturday by any chance Bazza?? As I said to Senior Seagull, I am not into this "my passion is bigger than yours" type stuff as I recognise that all clubs have dyed in the wool supporters who express their passion in different ways. I am merely pointing out that a professional sports commentator who barracks for a team other than Swans went out of his way to comment on the atmosphere at the ground on Saturday and that it was the highlight of his broadcasting career. I think that is a great boost for the WAFL and demonstrates that this great competition still has some life left in it despite all the nay sayers who want to see its demise.

MarkOlsen wrote: the last Freo derby had a crowd of 1436.
wasnt on a Monday so looks like when its not on a special day it attracts hardly any people ?
proof of the pudding is in the eating there.

So one poor derby attendance means EF / SF rivalry is dead then MO?........if that were to happen then the WAFL iswell n truly dead then........it really comes across here that majority of SD fans would like that to happen simply to win the debate that SDFC are the life blood of the WAFL........fingers crossed WP win on Sat, because its gonna look strange the very life blood on the WAFL sitting on the sidelines with the other dead beats for 2015......fark hopefully for the existence of the WAFL that doesnt happen......

Freezin wrote:

MarkOlsen wrote: the last Freo derby had a crowd of 1436.
wasnt on a Monday so looks like when its not on a special day it attracts hardly any people ?
proof of the pudding is in the eating there.

So one poor derby attendance means EF / SF rivalry is dead then MO?........if that were to happen then the WAFL iswell n truly dead then........it really comes across here that majority of SD fans would like that to happen simply to win the debate that SDFC are the life blood of the WAFL........fingers crossed WP win on Sat, because its gonna look strange the very life blood on the WAFL sitting on the sidelines with the other dead beats for 2015......fark hopefully for the existence of the WAFL that doesnt happen......

Spot on freeze, take the two freo clubs out of the wafl and you might as well shut it down, as for the last derby crowd, both teams being at the tail of the ladder a big factor, doesnt mean plenty wont boast wafl attendances year in year out as in the past. Sdfc are far from the life blood of the wafl, in fact since their inception into the comp they have spent big portions being complete duds.

In fact if you look at the top 4 clubs attendance wise, its the same old stagers perth and freo derby holding things up, infact considering both freo clubs have had shit seasons they have done well to both make the top attendance table.

Bazza wrote:

Freezin wrote:

MarkOlsen wrote: the last Freo derby had a crowd of 1436.
wasnt on a Monday so looks like when its not on a special day it attracts hardly any people ?
proof of the pudding is in the eating there.

So one poor derby attendance means EF / SF rivalry is dead then MO?........if that were to happen then the WAFL iswell n truly dead then........it really comes across here that majority of SD fans would like that to happen simply to win the debate that SDFC are the life blood of the WAFL........fingers crossed WP win on Sat, because its gonna look strange the very life blood on the WAFL sitting on the sidelines with the other dead beats for 2015......fark hopefully for the existence of the WAFL that doesnt happen......

Spot on freeze, take the two freo clubs out of the wafl and you might as well shut it down, as for the last derby crowd, both teams being at the tail of the ladder a big factor, doesnt mean plenty wont boast wafl attendances year in year out as in the past. Sdfc are far from the life blood of the wafl, in fact since their inception into the comp they have spent big portions being complete duds.

And some on here reckon Swans supporters live in fantasy ..fair dinkum the Freo Derby has been irrelevant since the 90's, the Perth Derby is a far more intense rivalry IN THE MODERN AGE ..the Freo Derby is as intense as a $ubi v Claremont Powder Puff Derby!!

Must be why 11, 500 turned up to a game in 2009. When was the last time the cobwebs at bassendean saw that many at a game?

Well you can all go get stuffed - my dick is way bigger & fatter than yours

Seriously , I went back in memory and came up with the 4 best atmospheres at games I attended & they are:

1. 1979 GF - EF v SF
2. 1980 GF - SD v SF
3. 1979 regular season derby game at Freo Oval (23000 odd peeps attended)
4. 1979 regular season Perth derby (21 or 22000 odd peeps attended - went with an uncle who supported EP at that time)

All of those games had the real WAFL diehards out in force

5c

Yep was at most of them, other ones from memory, the cliff hanger Noel Carter kicked after the siren, and we won at ef oval. Crowd went nuts.

Also 1981 gf ! Just magic with the famous baz campbell take down, actually claremont had a great supporter base, 51 000 there,

I remember a drawn final at subi wp v ef , as a neutral as great in 1989.

SS that was 40 years ago and WAFL footy was worlds apart from what it is now. I am not suggesting Swans fans have a mortgage on passion and every club has its passionate supporters in different forms. I was merely replying to your 'circle jerk' comment to say that the discussion since the weekend about Swans fans were sparked by a Claremont supporter making an observation about how great the atmosphere was there. If you want to get all defensive and precious about it, your choice.[/quote]

Thought he was a demon?

BC wrote:

BC wrote:

swan42 wrote:

BC wrote: why would I want to risk life and limb to go to bogandean and watch a game i have little or no interest in? if you want proof of what I'm talking about go onto the WAPOL website and have alook at the stats yourself. so far this year there has been 175 assaults, 94 burgs and 27 m/v thefts in Midland. In Basso there's been 84 assaults, 113 burgs and 28 m/v thefts. In leederville, the home of the mighty Lions there's been 26 assaults, 11 burgs and 9 m/v thefts. it's not rocket science to work out that I'd be 3 times more likely to be assaulted, 10 times to have my home broken into and 3 times more likely to have my car knocked off if i went to bogandean than leederville....

BC please explain how going to Basso rather than Leederville increases your chances of your home being burgled? Could it be a non sequitur or do you often use hyperbole to try to make a point which can't be substantiated through facts?

its just an indicative fact 42...the others as you well know are very relative...here's the link

www.police.wa.gov.au/Aboutus/Statistics/...bid/998/Default.aspx

anything to say now 42? is what i posted supported by facts or not? i'll consider your apology when i get it.

Apologise for what BC? Did I question any of the statistics you stated? I enquired as to what is the relationship between you going to Basso and being burgled compared to going to Leederville and being burgled?

Perhaps you can provide the relative statistics for white collar crime in the three suburbs as well.

DG wrote: SS that was 40 years ago and WAFL footy was worlds apart from what it is now. I am not suggesting Swans fans have a mortgage on passion and every club has its passionate supporters in different forms. I was merely replying to your 'circle jerk' comment to say that the discussion since the weekend about Swans fans were sparked by a Claremont supporter making an observation about how great the atmosphere was there. If you want to get all defensive and precious about it, your choice.

Thought he was a demon?[/quote]

In the interview he STATED he was a Claremont supporter.