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Fix PFC Zone 3 years 2 weeks ago #203395

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At what point did say there was not a problem, there are at least 5 clubs that have issues with not having a consistent development/colts process.

Each club has as I understand it a Development position which was funded by the AFL until this year. East Perth has a district page which lists the people involved which funnily enough has perth, Swans and East Perth CEO's and reps listed -  www.royalsdistrict.com.au/about-us/our-people  - so it would appear that  each club has a similar arrangement -  www.demonsdistrict.com.au/about-us/our-people  - which has the same pictures in the news and structure as the EP one .
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Fix PFC Zone 3 years 2 weeks ago #203396

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There are 2 facets to “zones”. There is community game development and there is “talent” development. These are distinct but obviously overlap, eg higher participation is more likely to produce more “talent”.
Community game development includes community based competitions. This is run in “conferences”, a kind of cooperative across groups of WAFL “Districts” loosely based on the WAFL Clubs but not directly controlled by them. This is how you get EP/P/SD. This was established a long time back now basically because there were not enough kids in each district to run stand alone comps. WAFC provide resources to this model but the Districts also contribute money and people.  
Talent was run and funded by the District/WAFL club but the WAFC/AFL took that over a couple of years ago (although clubs still had a level of input - especially in terms of people in many of the roles). Clubs wanted it back and got it back after the government enquiry last year.
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Fix PFC Zone 3 years 2 weeks ago #203398

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Question for those that criticise Perth and accuse them of not working their zone, can you name any players past or present who have gone from the Perth zone to another WAFL club and made it? Bottom line is the depth and quality of talent is just not there and for some reason, or reasons I have touched on, we don’t seem to produce tall players. Most talls at our club have been brought in from other WAFL clubs because we just don’t have any.

Connor McPartland and Jaiden Hunter are EF rejects. Jack Amos, Sam East, Fraser Barns, Aaron Locicero, Cameron Loersh and others around the 195 - 205 cm range that have come and gone in recent times, all imports/rejects from other clubs.
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DD. You raise interesting points on this important topic, but I am not sure that a zone has no talent in it just because few players from that zone make it to senior lists. I’m not sure that that can be proved or disproved either way.
it is interesting though that of the tall players you just listed, half are from East Perth, which most on here appear to accept is, like Perth, one of the weakest zones.
to your last question, perhaps Busher (x2), Houghton, legget, all the players that have been mentioned that made AFL lists, all of those that the WCE took this year.
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DD I have not criticised the perth football club but tried to point out that the bulk of WAFL clubs have issues with their zones and suffer the times that have been suggested. Supporting the club that has a history going broke cos we constantly buy players due to perceived zonal issues is the cross that I have to bear,

It is a fact of WAFL life that some areas have a strong pool to choose from and some don't!
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DD I have not criticised the perth football club but tried to point out that the bulk of WAFL clubs have issues with their zones and suffer the times that have been suggested. Supporting the club that has a history going broke cos we constantly buy players due to perceived zonal issues is the cross that I have to bear,

It is a fact of WAFL life that some areas have a strong pool to choose from and some don't!
My last post wasn't targeting you Grump, I am aware that East Perth have had their struggles with their zones for a long time but as evidenced by the strength of your recent colts and reserves maybe the tide is turning.
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DD. You raise interesting points on this important topic, but I am not sure that a zone has no talent in it just because few players from that zone make it to senior lists. I’m not sure that that can be proved or disproved either way.
it is interesting though that of the tall players you just listed, half are from East Perth, which most on here appear to accept is, like Perth, one of the weakest zones.
to your last question, perhaps Busher (x2), Houghton, legget, all the players that have been mentioned that made AFL lists, all of those that the WCE took this year.
FO, I think last year someone pointed out that Claremont colts have not missed finals in the past 25 years, pencil that in for 26 by the end of this year. Now I might try and research this myself because it will I am sure point to a very damming statistic that should embarrass those like John Townsend who continually take cheap shots at the Perth Football Club like his piss weak article yesterday.

Life is pretty easy for a fan of the leafy Western Suburbs mob in Claremont smack bang in the heart of some of the richest real estate in Australia and home to CEO's of mining giants, surgeons and law firms to name just a few. How many new arrivals from refugee camps occupy your zones John?

How many low income earners live in your zones John? Excluding uni students.
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Fix PFC Zone 3 years 2 weeks ago #203405

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Geez DD...don't shoot the messenger mate. At least JT is writing about the WAFL and should be applauded even if you don't like what he's saying.

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Fix PFC Zone 3 years 2 weeks ago #203406

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DD, once again we see a journalist ever faithful to the "Journos Creed" never to let facts or truth get in the way of a good story.
If a thorough research was carried out this story this morning would have had a different tone to it.
I raise the question whether this morning's article would exist had Perth not had such a heavy loss as occurred last Saturday.
If he had dug a little deeper, JD would have come up with the real facts about the scoreboard and the club's long poor onfield record of the past 40 years and presented a far more balanced article based on fact and truth..
 
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Geez DD...don't shoot the messenger mate. At least JT is writing about the WAFL and should be applauded even if you don't like what he's saying.
I normally appreciate his support of the WAFL BC but there is a pattern to JT's articles when it comes to the Perth FC even when he is reporting after a solid win there is usually and little whack at the end of it like, can Perth maintain it or will they fold like they usually do?

His article yesterday first of all fails to recognize a few facts, 1. according to S42 the scoreboard was working during the futures game so nothing much the club can do on the day, they probably did well to have some sort of makeshift scorebaord at all to be honest. 2. It is the Eagles responsibilty to provide a new scoreboard. But no it's all about the calamity of the PFC.

He painted a negative slant on the win over a WCE reserves team comprising 2018 AFL Premiership ruckman Nathan Vardy, Jake Waterman, Xavier O'Neil and Isiah Winder, all who didn't play the following week against WP. We played in the hottest part of the day and the first qtr went for 37 minutes and 21 seconds and another qtr went for over 35. I think that game took a bit out of our players. So he has jumped all over us over one loss but we lost our co captain Fraser McInness and Josh Smith who was in the best 3 players against the Eagles from the previous week and he has slipped the boots in while pumping up his club who we play this week. He just can't help himself.

Well we usually do very well against Claremont at Claremont so let's hope the boys can pick themselves up and do it again against Claremont at Claremont this weekend.
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