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MarkOlsen wrote: who specifically lacks credibility ?
our supporters ?
our CEO ?
our president ?
our treasurer ?
our board ?
last time i checked I wasnt in control of Swans finances and the people that were are no longer at the club so what relevance has that got to do with anything ?
is your issue with Peter Harvey our then president and Brendan Parker our then CEO ?
if you can clarify the particular people you are referring to that would be appreciated.
thanks

Like dear old 42 you are only able to respond to a post with a question, never having the courage or mental capacity to address any issues raised in that post. For many years including those halcyon days of multi million dollar revenues your lot have critised Subi for having plenty of money and recruiting players, so I'm just reminding those that live in glass houses not to throw stones.

We all know your current team is loaded with good young local kids from your extensive well populated junior district and nobody criticizes that, but why has your club taken that change of direction? That's a very easy question to answer, it had no other choice but to drastically curtail spending including the large sums you spent recruiting imports as was your preferred method in and around your premiership year, do you honestly believe there would have been any change in your player recruitment policy if those vast amounts of money had continued to flow in and you had managed to find someone capable and honest to manage it in a sustainable manner? You have no right to criticize another club for doing the same as your club has done in very recent history, it is childish and hypocritical.

How can you be ahead, behind or on BUDGET half way through a year. Is that a serious question? Am I missing something here.

Senior Seagull wrote:

MarkOlsen wrote: who specifically lacks credibility ?
our supporters ?
our CEO ?
our president ?
our treasurer ?
our board ?
last time i checked I wasnt in control of Swans finances and the people that were are no longer at the club so what relevance has that got to do with anything ?
is your issue with Peter Harvey our then president and Brendan Parker our then CEO ?
if you can clarify the particular people you are referring to that would be appreciated.
thanks

Like dear old 42 you are only able to respond to a post with a question, never having the courage or mental capacity to address any issues raised in that post. For many years including those halcyon days of multi million dollar revenues your lot have critised Subi for having plenty of money and recruiting players, so I'm just reminding those that live in glass houses not to throw stones.

We all know your current team is loaded with good young local kids from your extensive well populated junior district and nobody criticizes that, but why has your club taken that change of direction? That's a very easy question to answer, it had no other choice but to drastically curtail spending including the large sums you spent recruiting imports as was your preferred method in and around your premiership year, do you honestly believe there would have been any change in your player recruitment policy if those vast amounts of money had continued to flow in and you had managed to find someone capable and honest to manage it in a sustainable manner? You have no right to criticize another club for doing the same as your club has done in very recent history, it is childish and hypocritical.

you need to do some homework on what actually happened to Swans - the money flow hasnt stopped, it just has been reported accurately and things like GST and super are now being paid - basically our previous administration was spending money it didnt actually have. When i as a member was aware of this I was amongst a group of members who voted not to accept the clubs financial statement at the agm, members of that board were removed and the CEO had previously left for obvious reasons so why am i being childish and hypocritical when when i found out what happened was part of the group that took action ?

and you said that someone lacks credibility, who specifically are you referring to ?

Larry Bird wrote: How can you be ahead, behind or on BUDGET half way through a year. Is that a serious question? Am I missing something here.

yes you are missing something Larry - you have a set amount of money to spend in a year - when is the relevant time to meet your budget ?
the end ?

yes, you do forecasting - is that the word you have been looking for ?

and have you contacted the Swans treasurer with your accusations that Swans reduced their wage bill ?

MarkOlsen wrote:

Senior Seagull wrote:

MarkOlsen wrote: who specifically lacks credibility ?
our supporters ?
our CEO ?
our president ?
our treasurer ?
our board ?
last time i checked I wasnt in control of Swans finances and the people that were are no longer at the club so what relevance has that got to do with anything ?
is your issue with Peter Harvey our then president and Brendan Parker our then CEO ?
if you can clarify the particular people you are referring to that would be appreciated.
thanks

Swans continue to have an annual revenue of $4million plus? as was the case back then? that's substantially more than Subi's annualrevenue

Like dear old 42 you are only able to respond to a post with a question, never having the courage or mental capacity to address any issues raised in that post. For many years including those halcyon days of multi million dollar revenues your lot have critised Subi for having plenty of money and recruiting players, so I'm just reminding those that live in glass houses not to throw stones.

We all know your current team is loaded with good young local kids from your extensive well populated junior district and nobody criticizes that, but why has your club taken that change of direction? That's a very easy question to answer, it had no other choice but to drastically curtail spending including the large sums you spent recruiting imports as was your preferred method in and around your premiership year, do you honestly believe there would have been any change in your player recruitment policy if those vast amounts of money had continued to flow in and you had managed to find someone capable and honest to manage it in a sustainable manner? You have no right to criticize another club for doing the same as your club has done in very recent history, it is childish and hypocritical.

you need to do some homework on what actually happened to Swans - the money flow hasnt stopped, it just has been reported accurately and things like GST and super are now being paid - basically our previous administration was spending money it didnt actually have. When i as a member was aware of this I was amongst a group of members who voted not to accept the clubs financial statement at the agm, members of that board were removed and the CEO had previously left for obvious reasons so why am i being childish and hypocritical when when i found out what happened was part of the group that took action ?

and you said that someone lacks credibility, who specifically are you referring to ?

So what your saying in your first para is that Swans continue to have an annual revenue of $4million plus? as was the case back then? that's substantially more than Subi's annual revenue. If vthats the case your dire financial situation should be solved very quickly.

Those that criticize another club for doing essentially the same things their own club has done lack credibility.

Budget and forecast are the same thing Mark. Both are an estimation of monies in and out. You are being very petulant like a spoilt schoolboy. I might have to simplify this once more to make headway. Mark did swans spend more in player payments in the the first ten games or the second ten games last year. I will assert more in the first ten games (reasons aside) hence you honour I would like to suggest the Swans player payments were reduced over the last ten games.

just for you once again Larry please read the following, this is a quote Swan42 got from the Swans treasurer Mr Paul Douglas:

"At no stage were we ever in danger of breaching the cap in 2014.
When the WAFC looked at our figures after 10 games they divided our payments so far by 10 and multiplied by 20 and determined that if we continued to pay at that rate we would be over the cap.
What they didn't take into account ( a fact they soon realised ) is that we brought forward some payments in advance to accommodate special needs. At no stage were we ever in danger of breaching the cap in 2014."

Senior Seagull wrote:

MarkOlsen wrote:

Senior Seagull wrote:

MarkOlsen wrote: who specifically lacks credibility ?
our supporters ?
our CEO ?
our president ?
our treasurer ?
our board ?
last time i checked I wasnt in control of Swans finances and the people that were are no longer at the club so what relevance has that got to do with anything ?
is your issue with Peter Harvey our then president and Brendan Parker our then CEO ?
if you can clarify the particular people you are referring to that would be appreciated.
thanks

Swans continue to have an annual revenue of $4million plus? as was the case back then? that's substantially more than Subi's annualrevenue

Like dear old 42 you are only able to respond to a post with a question, never having the courage or mental capacity to address any issues raised in that post. For many years including those halcyon days of multi million dollar revenues your lot have critised Subi for having plenty of money and recruiting players, so I'm just reminding those that live in glass houses not to throw stones.

We all know your current team is loaded with good young local kids from your extensive well populated junior district and nobody criticizes that, but why has your club taken that change of direction? That's a very easy question to answer, it had no other choice but to drastically curtail spending including the large sums you spent recruiting imports as was your preferred method in and around your premiership year, do you honestly believe there would have been any change in your player recruitment policy if those vast amounts of money had continued to flow in and you had managed to find someone capable and honest to manage it in a sustainable manner? You have no right to criticize another club for doing the same as your club has done in very recent history, it is childish and hypocritical.

you need to do some homework on what actually happened to Swans - the money flow hasnt stopped, it just has been reported accurately and things like GST and super are now being paid - basically our previous administration was spending money it didnt actually have. When i as a member was aware of this I was amongst a group of members who voted not to accept the clubs financial statement at the agm, members of that board were removed and the CEO had previously left for obvious reasons so why am i being childish and hypocritical when when i found out what happened was part of the group that took action ?

and you said that someone lacks credibility, who specifically are you referring to ?

So what your saying in your first para is that Swans continue to have an annual revenue of $4million plus? as was the case back then? that's substantially more than Subi's annual revenue. If vthats the case your dire financial situation should be solved very quickly.

Those that criticize another club for doing essentially the same things their own club has done lack credibility.

SS when one considers the annual revenue for the Swan Districts Football Club one really should have some understanding of the v Swan programme. If one did have some idea of that programme one would realise that it does not support your argument.

LB you can try to rationalse and REWRITE what you wrote on this forum. However, no amounts of rationalisation or rewrites absolve you from the FACT you were wrong when you wrote them and your continue to be WRONG in your assertion that Swans had exceeded the salary cap.

Please quote the instance Swan in Black and White that I made a claim Swans breached the salary cap. Until you can do it your just making yourself look dishonest and stupid.

thats a bit harsh LB...swan isn't dishonest....