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I'm sitting at home exchanging pleasantries with you RL because I don't have any choice. Is that some sought of normality I wonder?

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Yes I'm not exactly sure NSW should be held up as a shining light of Covid management after the Ruby Princess fiasco, nursing homes outbreaks, major clusters after crowds allowed to go en masse to beaches like Bondi and so on....but I do think Dear Leader McGoo should be called out for this latest lockdown which is as a direct result of our hospitals not being able to cope with an outbreak. Two or three infections should not be cause for an entire metro area to go into lockdown...that is bullshit.

BC as McGoo used several times today, that was 13/14 months ago. Every Premier and health Minister was a rookie when it came to Covid. Yes NSW made mistakes in the beginning but now they are leaving McGowan's one trick pony approach in their wake.

This a constantly evolving thing and those who are smart work out a way to limit the outbreak of Covid without shutting down the whole economy.

McGoo is as stubborn as they come and he just won't listen to any other way. As soon as someone applies the heat he flicks them off like he did today with that female journalist which was disgraceful and she just highlighted his inability to see it any other way.

Yeah but mate...this approach has made him more popular than ever.

Covid has been an absolute boon for him.

He ain't gonna change tack now with the scared masses cheering him on every step of the way, even, strangely enough as some lose their jobs and businesses because of lockdowns.

It's mind boggling......I cannot fathom how people can't see that there will be consequences from lockdowns with 1 or 2 or 3 cases.

As the doc mentioned during the press conference...."covid isn't going away".... his own words.

There is a vaccine for the flu and that hasn't gone away either. Expect more random lockdowns over the next 18 months.

People don't seem to want to look it up....but as I've mentioned the average age of those who have died from covid in australia is 86 years.  This can be easily researched on the official gov website which lists every covid death by age and gender.


 

It is not just the deaths from COVID-19, there are also the long term health impacts from COVID-19.  Current reports indicate that more younger people are getting COVID-19 now than previously.  

Well i've gone back to work fulltime since Sco Mo's jobkeeper expired early this month,and haven't missed a Royals match since the WAFL resumed last year  so things are fairly normal for me,

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I shat my dacks McGowan needs another plan the total lock down BS is costing a fortune, goodness knows how pubs retail et al can survive with losses like this, people can’t have livelihoods wrecked just because our simpleton leader can’t come up with a better plan

Look at NSW far bigger population more travellers coming in but does not have a total lockdown at a drop of a hat. Give me the premier of NSW any day of the week over these lunatics.

Exactly and let's look at it from a global perspective.

Small businesses are shutting down in the hundreds of thousands because they can't afford to pay staff when they are closed during lockdowns.

In some countries lockdowns have gone on for months and months at a time.

In the UK there has been an estimated 2 million extra requests than average for food parcels from charity groups in 2020.

Even in Australia small businesses have closed and many are on the brink.

If lockdowns continue in 2021/2022 around the world how many more businesses will close. How many more people will be relying on welfare?

If there are fewer small businesses operating and less people working where does the tax revenue come from that sustains welfare. There will have to be tax increases for those lucky enough to still be working. How else are they going to pay for the increase in social security expenditure.

Meanwhile debt spirals out of control around the world. How are future generations going to pay that back? Will some countries even bother!

There has to be a more sustainable way of responding to covid than lockdowns for all.

I don't understand why we don't give people over the age of 65 or with health issues the option of staying home and locking down and having their requirements delivered to their door. That would allow the low risk age groups to continue working, living a normal life and contributing to society and the economy. Some older folks might say, no thanks, I'll take my chances out there and go to the footy or the movies or whatever. They can choose.

Spot on LH, we are being held to ransom by this inept Gov who have had 14 months now to come up with a covid game plan and all they can come up with is close the borders (for cases in other states & lockdown for WA cases).
Absolutely pathetic stuff.
I was in agreeance last year as this was the first time in 100 years we have had to deal with a pandemic and there was always going to be a bit of suck it and see but this Gov have done absolutely nothing towards being proactive in coming up with a plan other than lockdowns or border closures that effect everyone instead of just locking down those directly effected and their close contacts within the incubation period!

 

It might be unpalatable for some but we did have an election here in March, 2020.  By any metric  a significant majority of West Australians endorsed the steps taken by the McGowan government's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic.

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Yes I'm not exactly sure NSW should be held up as a shining light of Covid management after the Ruby Princess fiasco, nursing homes outbreaks, major clusters after crowds allowed to go en masse to beaches like Bondi and so on....but I do think Dear Leader McGoo should be called out for this latest lockdown which is as a direct result of our hospitals not being able to cope with an outbreak. Two or three infections should not be cause for an entire metro area to go into lockdown...that is bullshit.

BC as McGoo used several times today, that was 13/14 months ago. Every Premier and health Minister was a rookie when it came to Covid. Yes NSW made mistakes in the beginning but now they are leaving McGowan's one trick pony approach in their wake.

This a constantly evolving thing and those who are smart work out a way to limit the outbreak of Covid without shutting down the whole economy.

McGoo is as stubborn as they come and he just won't listen to any other way. As soon as someone applies the heat he flicks them off like he did today with that female journalist which was disgraceful and she just highlighted his inability to see it any other way.

Yeah but mate...this approach has made him more popular than ever.

Covid has been an absolute boon for him.

He ain't gonna change tack now with the scared masses cheering him on every step of the way, even, strangely enough as some lose their jobs and businesses because of lockdowns.

It's mind boggling......I cannot fathom how people can't see that there will be consequences from lockdowns with 1 or 2 or 3 cases.

As the doc mentioned during the press conference...."covid isn't going away".... his own words.

There is a vaccine for the flu and that hasn't gone away either. Expect more random lockdowns over the next 18 months.

People don't seem to want to look it up....but as I've mentioned the average age of those who have died from covid in australia is 86 years.  This can be easily researched on the official gov website which lists every covid death by age and gender.





 

It is not just the deaths from COVID-19, there are also the long term health impacts from COVID-19.  Current reports indicate that more younger people are getting COVID-19 now than previously.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Exactly Swan 42 the people i saw in the footage of the  carnage in India  looked a lot younger than the supposed  average80 year old death bracket.                                                                                                                                                                                 

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Yes I'm not exactly sure NSW should be held up as a shining light of Covid management after the Ruby Princess fiasco, nursing homes outbreaks, major clusters after crowds allowed to go en masse to beaches like Bondi and so on....but I do think Dear Leader McGoo should be called out for this latest lockdown which is as a direct result of our hospitals not being able to cope with an outbreak. Two or three infections should not be cause for an entire metro area to go into lockdown...that is bullshit.

BC as McGoo used several times today, that was 13/14 months ago. Every Premier and health Minister was a rookie when it came to Covid. Yes NSW made mistakes in the beginning but now they are leaving McGowan's one trick pony approach in their wake.

This a constantly evolving thing and those who are smart work out a way to limit the outbreak of Covid without shutting down the whole economy.

McGoo is as stubborn as they come and he just won't listen to any other way. As soon as someone applies the heat he flicks them off like he did today with that female journalist which was disgraceful and she just highlighted his inability to see it any other way.

Yeah but mate...this approach has made him more popular than ever.

Covid has been an absolute boon for him.

He ain't gonna change tack now with the scared masses cheering him on every step of the way, even, strangely enough as some lose their jobs and businesses because of lockdowns.

It's mind boggling......I cannot fathom how people can't see that there will be consequences from lockdowns with 1 or 2 or 3 cases.

As the doc mentioned during the press conference...."covid isn't going away".... his own words.

There is a vaccine for the flu and that hasn't gone away either. Expect more random lockdowns over the next 18 months.

People don't seem to want to look it up....but as I've mentioned the average age of those who have died from covid in australia is 86 years.  This can be easily researched on the official gov website which lists every covid death by age and gender.




 

It is not just the deaths from COVID-19, there are also the long term health impacts from COVID-19.  Current reports indicate that more younger people are getting COVID-19 now than previously.  

But not dying from it mate....just go to the official government website and view the official statistics

Australia's death rate from COVID-19 is the envy of most countries worldwide.  That is not in dispute.  However, it should not be ignored that there appear to be some long term health consequences for some of those who don't die from COVID-19.  Is it better not to get COVID-19 or recover from same?

and I'm glad someone has mentioned the longer term effects on far younger folks than the elderly who would have struggled to survive a bad influenza outbreak with their frailty
There are lingering health issues that are prevalent and let us not forget that in the very beginning it was a pack of absolute nut jobs who find it nice to eat endangered species of poor animals held captive in those revolting wet markets 
This one is not politician in some state in a country - this one has other beginnings and bigger pictures than a state pollie

And Swan mate - I admire your restraint against a torrent of abuse there old son , good for you champion

There are lung scarring evidences in the younger bracket - it isn't your usual symptom of flu viruses 
There are some cases of other unusual symptoms being displayed by the survivors of worse cases 

that's about right from what I've read mate - but there probably will be a clean book of data logs given this isn't something experienced beforehand in history , we have of course as a civilisation seen the Spanish Flu and the plagues 
There are unusuals and this shedding in sewage testing is something new to us as a side menu to it

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Mate, explain to me, how anybody would know that there are long term health consequences for a virus that has been in existence for 14 months?

How can something be measured in advance without the evidence of time and measurement?

It is a logical impossibility to know if there are long term consequences of a virus until we actually see what happens in the long term.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Well if the BBC are to be believed[and not part of the media conspiracy]it highlighted in a Docco how a doctor who had been working in their public health system and 6 months after contracting COVID and deemed negative,was experiencing extreme cardiac  arythmia where his heart was inexplicably travelling at 200+bpm and was filmed being put on a defibrillator which supposedly resets your heart and was temporarily dead while his teary brother,who is also a public health doctor was watching on,and thankfully pulled through,as well as numerous other anecdotes of people who have never fully recovered even though being deemed covid negative months later.