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Are we Over Cautious? 4 years 1 week ago #185800

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BC wrote: I saw an interesting interview last week with a couple of guys in the US, one an infectious disease specialist and the other an economist. They have a view that you could open up the economy a lot quicker if you tested everyone who is currently out and about for work or whatever and those testing negative or had recovered would continue going about their daily activities and anyone testing positive would isolate. That would mean only negative people would be moving around. Then you start testing everyone else who is currently staying at home and release those testing negative to go back to work, school, uni and isolate the positives. In a very short period of time you'd only have people who tested negative or had recovered and had antibodies out in society and everyone who had tested positive in isolation. The downside to this idea is that it would take a massive amount of tests but in a place like Perth with borders closed, it could be doable.


Testing is the key 100% , we are doing far better than most in that regard, even for us BC you are talking about a massive amount of testing. It doesn't help the testing process is not easy or pleasant with nasal/throats swabs, really need a simpler test, once you get that, you could start with employees in big departments all being tested on site.

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Are we Over Cautious? 4 years 1 week ago #185803

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I'd be interested to know why WA has the lowest testing rate in Australia at around 1,100 per 100,000 residents whereas SA is testing at 2,400 and NSW 2,200 per 100,000.

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Are we Over Cautious? 4 years 1 week ago #185804

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BC wrote: I'd be interested to know why WA has the lowest testing rate in Australia at around 1,100 per 100,000 residents whereas SA is testing at 2,400 and NSW 2,200 per 100,000.


Yeah not real flash, from what I have seen and heard, people have stopped going to the testing sites the lines are gone, so the main reason seems to be lack of public interest.

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Are we Over Cautious? 4 years 1 week ago #185805

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DD wrote:

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BC wrote: DD...Take your Trump and Pence t-shirt off mate. I don't think governments at state and/or federal level have been over cautious at all. It's only been in the last week or so that we've seen single digit increases in cases in WA and now that the stinking cruise ships have all pissed off, we might start to see a gradual lifting of restrictions as Baz alluded to. I don't think it's financially viable for WAFL clubs to play to empty grand stands so until crowd limits are lifted I can't see anything happening for a couple of months yet.

More like get your hand off your Trump obsession BC. It's my own personal opinion thank you very much.


Yep...fair enough...and good topic btw. It certainly brings peoples opinions to the fore. I can't believe how disciplined we've all been with very few cases of idiots breaking the rules.


Yeah, its worked really well, and Ive been all good with it and Ive found the whingers really pathetic tbh, I mean how hard is it, but I reckon its going to be hard to justify going forward for us in WA, with zero new cases today, I think Sneakers is going to have to start a gradual relaxation, like I say Im all good with things but there are others who just cant cope, listening to callers on 6pr this morning I reckon it wont be long before there is a mass ignoring or rules.

Big Teeth in NZ just announced they are coming out of full lock down in a week, its probably approaching a time when Sneakers will have to set a date for a phase one re opening.

I gotta ask, how did Mark McGowan get the name Sneakers? I’ve wracked my brains, even googled it. I don’t get it. I can’t sleep tonight until I know. BTW if McGowan gets “Sneakers” how about we run with “Chompers” for big teeth? ?


Fair nickname for her, I reckon she could eat an orange through a picket fence!!
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Are we Over Cautious? 4 years 1 week ago #185806

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Just watched the latest 4 Corners. Excellent in-depth review of the covid 19 crisis since it arrived on our shores, well worth a look, the clearest explanation of what needed to be done and what has been done on both the health and economic sides of the situatuion, should be able to check it out on Iview.

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Are we Over Cautious? 4 years 1 week ago #185807

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BC wrote: I'd be interested to know why WA has the lowest testing rate in Australia at around 1,100 per 100,000 residents whereas SA is testing at 2,400 and NSW 2,200 per 100,000.

It gives you a better result.
People dying at home in England are not included. Better results

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Are we Over Cautious? 4 years 1 week ago #185808

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Senior Seagull wrote: Just watched the latest 4 Corners. Excellent in-depth review of the covid 19 crisis since it arrived on our shores, well worth a look, the clearest explanation of what needed to be done and what has been done on both the health and economic sides of the situatuion, should be able to check it out on Iview.


Yep, that was a great episode, David Spears is the best thing to ever happen to the ABC.

Like him on insiders as well, I actually watch it now that old leather head Cassidy has pissed off.

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Are we Over Cautious? 4 years 1 week ago #185809

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Bazza wrote:

Southerner wrote: Given the startling initial global spread of this thing - there is no way it's an over cautious approach , particularly given the overt contempt of federal law that has been repeatedly demonstrated by one state in Australia hence why that filthy state has the highest and most dangerous rate of infections
If anything we waited a touch too long and in that one state's case didn't take hard enough action against the dickheads who deliberately ignored these laws
one huge kudo goes to the WA premier who has prevented a potential catastrophe with quick decisive action - unlike one other voting time waste of oxygen in the east


I think you are being over critical to the "over east" mob, Tasmania and NT closed its state borders a lot quicker than Sneakers, the AMA were pleading with Sneakers to do the same and he brushed them off with some crap about it being unconstitutional, a few weeks later he caved in and did would he should of done earlier after going on the attack towards the doctors, no idea why people keep singing Mc Gowans praises when he totally stuffed that part of it up.


And that is a fair call too mate but every state could have closed shop earlier - Tassie & NT have much smaller populations and this could pretty much have wiped them out both out hence the swifter actioning
Unfortuantely not one person can say the same for NSW who have let this country down in a large way mate

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Are we Over Cautious? 4 years 1 week ago #185815

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Bazza wrote:

BC wrote: I saw an interesting interview last week with a couple of guys in the US, one an infectious disease specialist and the other an economist. They have a view that you could open up the economy a lot quicker if you tested everyone who is currently out and about for work or whatever and those testing negative or had recovered would continue going about their daily activities and anyone testing positive would isolate. That would mean only negative people would be moving around. Then you start testing everyone else who is currently staying at home and release those testing negative to go back to work, school, uni and isolate the positives. In a very short period of time you'd only have people who tested negative or had recovered and had antibodies out in society and everyone who had tested positive in isolation. The downside to this idea is that it would take a massive amount of tests but in a place like Perth with borders closed, it could be doable.


Testing is the key 100% , we are doing far better than most in that regard, even for us BC you are talking about a massive amount of testing. It doesn't help the testing process is not easy or pleasant with nasal/throats swabs, really need a simpler test, once you get that, you could start with employees in big departments all being tested on site.


It's a one off 5 seconds of discomfort, fark me dead...people seriously can't be getting tested because they think the test is unpleasant....heard it all now....it is what is, just get on with it....fark can think of a lot worse other invasive tests to have....pity us poor buggers doing the testing, getting coughed and spluttered on ...despite wearing PPE...it's five seconds....one off too....soft as butter or what.

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Are we Over Cautious? 4 years 6 days ago #185823

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Totally agree Freeze, just get on with testing, get on top of this thing then we can start to get back to the new normal sooner.

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