Time For a Flag wrote: Welfare states don't work and lead to misery. Immense misery. Sounds nice I know - but it simply ends in tears. You can't just take other peoples money off them and give it to someone else. You just replace the Capitalist living in Jutland Parade with government officials when you do this. All animals are created equal but some are more equal than others.
Of course this new government state has to look good outwardly - so the politicians in charge of it have to be seen in the finest garments and best cars and of course they must eat the best food and sleep in the best beds. They have after all got to do important thinking.
When the farmers can't be bothered getting up at 5am anymore (because they only get paid the same as everyone else - except high ranking government officials) they can be given a stern warning to increase production. If that production doesn't increase - their 100 year family farm will be taken over by the state. Same with the factories. Managers will be replaced by loyal members of the party. Loyal but not managers.
When entrepreneurial drive dies and innovation along with it - well the state can then just buy new technology off capitalist states who still have thriving technologies.
Most on here are old enough to know better. Stop trying to sound cool and hip to your 20 something kids or grand kids who are complaing they can't get a job after their gender studies degree and are in tears that they have to pay their student loan off (how unfair).
Its a slippery slope and you should all know better.
It's a nice fairy tale. How do you explain the enormous largesse of business welfare being doled out in this crisis and during the GFC and regularly riddled through the whole economy from rebates to subsidies to rent seeking rorts? You sound like Ayn Rand. Capitalists always become socialists in a crisis.