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Quite clearly there are states/territories that have articulated their prerogative to institute lockdowns if they deem it necessary going forward.  The federal government has implied that after reaching the 70/80% vaccination rate there will be no financial assistance to those states/territories.

There is a very simple solution to resolve this impasse.  Morrison can call an early election, like Trudeau has done in Canada so the Canadian voters can determine the direction of their federal government's  COVID-19 pandemic, and ask the Australian voters to endorse his government's plan to cut the financial support to states such as Queensland and WA.

swan42 wrote:

Quite clearly there are states/territories that have articulated their prerogative to institute lockdowns if they deem it necessary going forward.  The federal government has implied that after reaching the 70/80% vaccination rate there will be no financial assistance to those states/territories.

There is a very simple solution to resolve this impasse.  Morrison can call an early election, like Trudeau has done in Canada so the Canadian voters can determine the direction of their federal government's  COVID-19 pandemic, and ask the Australian voters to endorse his government's plan to cut the financial support to states such as Queensland and WA.

Are you sitting down with your slippers on 42? I think McGoo has said opening interstate borders with 70-80% of the eligible population vaccinated, was agreed to dependant on no more than about 30 positive cases nationally. I’m with McGoo on this one. It would be absolute madness to open our borders to any state where the rates of positive cases is out of control. 

That being said, it is inevitable that all states will have to live with people being infected with this virus in the community WITHOUT going into lockdown. So McGoo and Cooked better get used to the idea and get our health system up to scratch. 

DD wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Quite clearly there are states/territories that have articulated their prerogative to institute lockdowns if they deem it necessary going forward.  The federal government has implied that after reaching the 70/80% vaccination rate there will be no financial assistance to those states/territories.

There is a very simple solution to resolve this impasse.  Morrison can call an early election, like Trudeau has done in Canada so the Canadian voters can determine the direction of their federal government's  COVID-19 pandemic, and ask the Australian voters to endorse his government's plan to cut the financial support to states such as Queensland and WA.

Are you sitting down with your slippers on 42? I think McGoo has said opening interstate borders with 70-80% of the eligible population vaccinated, was agreed to dependant on no more than about 30 positive cases nationally. I’m with McGoo on this one. It would be absolute madness to open our borders to any state where the rates of positive cases is out of control. 

That being said, it is inevitable that all states will have to live with people being infected with this virus in the community WITHOUT going into lockdown. So McGoo and Cooked better get used to the idea and get our health system up to scratch. 

Good luck with that DD.  Just like our very good friend comrade 42, McGoo and Cooked turn everything even remotely related to Covid into a political issue and not a health problem.  It suits their purpose to deflect attention away from all the other problems we currently have including the aforementioned health system.  If Covid wasn't around this government would be stuffed based on its record of achievement or lack thereof so far when you look at all the other things it's getting wrong.  Ramping times trebled over the last 4 years, code yellows by hospitals almost a weekly event, public housing waiting times at record highs after some genius in the labor government decided to sell of hundreds of houses are just a few things that have gone down hill under this rabble.

BC along with health, the public housing situation is the big one and it's actually connected to public health specifically mental health and crime. there are endless studies that show that when people have a safe secure place to live, then their mental and physical health improves and crime reduces. This government which is reportedly running a $5mil++ surplus has done next to nothing regards the public housing emergency. The continuing lack of any plan for public housing will create more pressure on an already failing health system. They are a one trip pony, I hope they have some sort of forward planning once we reach 80%+ Vax and the population want/expect some freedom of movement to return, as then, he wont have that card to play.

Hey comrade 42. I see the latest polls have shown the coalition's primary vote at 40% to Labor's 32 which are the levels at the last election in 2019. ScoMo's approval rating is double that of Albo's at 46 to 23. Still want to call the election? At this rate we might see one before the end of the year.

BC wrote:

DD wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Quite clearly there are states/territories that have articulated their prerogative to institute lockdowns if they deem it necessary going forward.  The federal government has implied that after reaching the 70/80% vaccination rate there will be no financial assistance to those states/territories.

There is a very simple solution to resolve this impasse.  Morrison can call an early election, like Trudeau has done in Canada so the Canadian voters can determine the direction of their federal government's  COVID-19 pandemic, and ask the Australian voters to endorse his government's plan to cut the financial support to states such as Queensland and WA.

Are you sitting down with your slippers on 42? I think McGoo has said opening interstate borders with 70-80% of the eligible population vaccinated, was agreed to dependant on no more than about 30 positive cases nationally. I’m with McGoo on this one. It would be absolute madness to open our borders to any state where the rates of positive cases is out of control. 

That being said, it is inevitable that all states will have to live with people being infected with this virus in the community WITHOUT going into lockdown. So McGoo and Cooked better get used to the idea and get our health system up to scratch. 

Good luck with that DD.  Just like our very good friend comrade 42, McGoo and Cooked turn everything even remotely related to Covid into a political issue and not a health problem.  It suits their purpose to deflect attention away from all the other problems we currently have including the aforementioned health system.  If Covid wasn't around this government would be stuffed based on its record of achievement or lack thereof so far when you look at all the other things it's getting wrong.  Ramping times trebled over the last 4 years, code yellows by hospitals almost a weekly event, public housing waiting times at record highs after some genius in the labor government decided to sell of hundreds of houses are just a few things that have gone down hill under this rabble.

It is patently ridiculous to suggest that the Labor government would not have been returned if the COVID-19 pandemic had not occurred.

Speaking of ramping it is not a singular issue for WA.  Why were ambulances ramped for 6 hours in NSW recently?  Why has ambulance ramping occurred in SA recently?

Our next state election is due in 2025.   Will the leader of the federal Liberal Party appear hear in that election campaign?

BC wrote:

Hey comrade 42. I see the latest polls have shown the coalition's primary vote at 40% to Labor's 32 which are the levels at the last election in 2019. ScoMo's approval rating is double that of Albo's at 46 to 23. Still want to call the election? At this rate we might see one before the end of the year.

Unequivocally, unambiguously yes.  The question will be does Morrison come to WA and Queensland and tell the people that they will not receive financial assistance from a LNP federal government if a state government makes the judicious decision to lockdown.   I will make the observation that only around 100,000 will be able to vote for or against Morrison in Cook and a similar number for and against Albanese in Grayndler.

Ramping is rife world wise, if folk left ED for actually what it is designed for.....emergencies..... then ramping wouldn't exist....some of the bullshit time wasters who frequent and clog up ED are endless and mind boggling......start charging those soft triage 5 presentations and folk might have second thoughts about presenting.....

BC wrote:

Hey comrade 42. I see the latest polls have shown the coalition's primary vote at 40% to Labor's 32 which are the levels at the last election in 2019. ScoMo's approval rating is double that of Albo's at 46 to 23. Still want to call the election? At this rate we might see one before the end of the year.

Which polls are you referring to BC? The Morgan poll released last week had Labor leading the Coalition 54 - 46 on a two party preferred basis and Morrisons ratings had taken a hit, albeit he was still well ahead of Albenese. Has there been another poll this week?

mikeh wrote:

BC wrote:

Hey comrade 42. I see the latest polls have shown the coalition's primary vote at 40% to Labor's 32 which are the levels at the last election in 2019. ScoMo's approval rating is double that of Albo's at 46 to 23. Still want to call the election? At this rate we might see one before the end of the year.

Which polls are you referring to BC? The Morgan poll released last week had Labor leading the Coalition 54 - 46 on a two party preferred basis and Morrisons ratings had taken a hit, albeit he was still well ahead of Albenese. Has there been another poll this week?

It may have been based on an article in the SMH and/or The Age.  In that article it has some polling nationwide and individually for Qld, NSW and Vic.  The other states and territories, including WA, were all grouped as "rest of Australia".