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Bazza wrote:

NSW up to nearly 40 deaths a day now, 36 yesterday and Victoria's health system in Code Brown due to nurse 
 

I think it’s dangerous to focus purely on numbers. Numbers alone don’t tell the real story. In any pandemic/plague whatever you want to all it the sick or weak are going to always be the first to fall, that’s just a fact of life. Underlying health problems, age, lifestyle, obesity, genetics etc…. all play a role in those statistics. If you focus on those numbers alone it just creates unnecessary panic. 

Maybe they should state the age, pre existing health issues and vaccination status. Then I believe we will come out with a completely different picture.

Yes DD agree. Also how many of those deaths were from Covid rather than with Covid?

Only ever heard one news report where they broke the numbers down similar to how DD described. It was a much better more sensible and true way to represent the stats.

Hardly anyone would get vaxed if they had the breakdowns you have asked for.

Surely the question is would the person have died then if they had not contracted the virus, many folk live with underlying health issues but the virus is such that it brings abt their death sooner.

The fact is but for the virus they would, could and surely have lived longer!

Without the virus we wouldn’t have shelves stripped of food and restrictions everywhere we go amongst other things.
It’s here and as adults we have to adapt and live with it now unfortunately

Grump wrote:

Surely the question is would the person have died then if they had not contracted the virus, many folk live with underlying health issues but the virus is such that it brings abt their death sooner.

The fact is but for the virus they would, could and surely have lived longer!

Grump the question I’d like to ask you is, should we all stay indoors and shut businesses down and in effect stop living so 70, 80 and 90 year olds can live a bit longer? I feel sorry for the younger generation to be honest who should be enjoying their youth but it is being stymied by harsh restrictions and lockdowns. 

I would also like to see the statistics of those fully vaccinated who have been hospitalised or died, which vaccine they were immunised wth. I bet the federal government doesn’t want that statistic to be known. Not so much of the 70, 80 and 90’s but but those under 70.

As I’ve posted before, in Europe the country with the lowest rate of hospitalisation and death from omicron is England where around 80% are vaccinated with AstraZeneca.

DD wrote:

I would also like to see the statistics of those fully vaccinated who have been hospitalised or died, which vaccine they were immunised wth. I bet the federal government doesn’t want that statistic to be known. Not so much of the 70, 80 and 90’s but but those under 70.

As I’ve posted before, in Europe the country with the lowest rate of hospitalisation and death from omicron is England where around 80% are vaccinated with AstraZeneca.

2 x AZ gives you much better proection than 2 x Phz, 2 x AZ plus 1 Phz booster is as good as you will get.

UK is doing much better with the second waves, as it is all AZ.