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The_Duck wrote:

Local Footy wrote:

The_Duck wrote: You would have to ask them. I wasn't the timekeeper.

The question you should be asking is, why did the Collegians umpire ignore the obvious instruction from the field umpire (evidenced by them blowing their whistle and raising their arms)?

All I know is that the Whitford timekeeper followed the very simple instruction - for reasons unknown the Collegians timekeeper did not.

The umpires are academy umpires and raise their arm and blow time off and time on throughout the whole game even if the WAAFL plays no time on. They do this as they are practicing for the WAFL. What the umpires have always needed to do in amos is walk towards the home bench and tell them to stop the clock... did this happen. If so then it was a mistake.

So what you're saying is that the Collegians timekeeper didn't know the by-laws which relate to when a stretcher is called? Surely timekeepers can differentiate between when a stretcher is called (and on the field) and when it hasn't been called?
The Whitford timekeeper knew the by-law that relates to time on when a stretcher is called (and used their eyes and ears to acknowledge the field umpires).

You can't blame the umpires - they weren't 'practicing' as you stated - they knew the rules, the Whitford timekeeper knew the rules, and for some reason the Collegians timekeeper did not (or chose to ignore them - again, the reasons why are unclear).

Yes I am saying he probably didn't know the by-law. Most of the experienced hands at the club (including myself) have retired due to work and family so as you probably saw today they are very inexperienced on and of the field at Collegians atm..... No excuse though but I would most defiantly say it was not done on purpose.

Local Footy wrote:

The_Duck wrote:

Local Footy wrote:

The_Duck wrote: You would have to ask them. I wasn't the timekeeper.

The question you should be asking is, why did the Collegians umpire ignore the obvious instruction from the field umpire (evidenced by them blowing their whistle and raising their arms)?

All I know is that the Whitford timekeeper followed the very simple instruction - for reasons unknown the Collegians timekeeper did not.

The umpires are academy umpires and raise their arm and blow time off and time on throughout the whole game even if the WAAFL plays no time on. They do this as they are practicing for the WAFL. What the umpires have always needed to do in amos is walk towards the home bench and tell them to stop the clock... did this happen. If so then it was a mistake.

So what you're saying is that the Collegians timekeeper didn't know the by-laws which relate to when a stretcher is called? Surely timekeepers can differentiate between when a stretcher is called (and on the field) and when it hasn't been called?
The Whitford timekeeper knew the by-law that relates to time on when a stretcher is called (and used their eyes and ears to acknowledge the field umpires).

You can't blame the umpires - they weren't 'practicising' as you stated - they knew the rules, the Whitford timekeeper knew the rules, and for some reason the Collegians timekeeper did not (or chose to ignore them - again, the reasons why are unclear).

Yes I am saying he probably didn't know the by-law.

Or was a collegians official drinking during a game and heavily intoxicated that clouded his judgement?

Local Footy wrote:

The_Duck wrote:

Local Footy wrote:

The_Duck wrote: You would have to ask them. I wasn't the timekeeper.

The question you should be asking is, why did the Collegians umpire ignore the obvious instruction from the field umpire (evidenced by them blowing their whistle and raising their arms)?

All I know is that the Whitford timekeeper followed the very simple instruction - for reasons unknown the Collegians timekeeper did not.

The umpires are academy umpires and raise their arm and blow time off and time on throughout the whole game even if the WAAFL plays no time on. They do this as they are practicing for the WAFL. What the umpires have always needed to do in amos is walk towards the home bench and tell them to stop the clock... did this happen. If so then it was a mistake.

So what you're saying is that the Collegians timekeeper didn't know the by-laws which relate to when a stretcher is called? Surely timekeepers can differentiate between when a stretcher is called (and on the field) and when it hasn't been called?
The Whitford timekeeper knew the by-law that relates to time on when a stretcher is called (and used their eyes and ears to acknowledge the field umpires).

You can't blame the umpires - they weren't 'practicising' as you stated - they knew the rules, the Whitford timekeeper knew the rules, and for some reason the Collegians timekeeper did not (or chose to ignore them - again, the reasons why are unclear).

Yes I am saying he probably didn't know the by-law.

If that is the case, then it's a very sad indictment on the Collegians Football Club as they have a responsibility to uphold the 'WAAFL Spirit of the Game.'

I really hope you aren't involved with the Collegians Football Club Hawk Eye as that statement could be insuated as an admission of guilt which could lead to severe ramications for the CFC. But we will never know (unless you are able to confirm or deny - not that I'm asking).

Furthermore, if he did not know the rules, 1. Why was he allowed to be the official timekeeper of the CFC; and 2. Why did he not follow the advice/request of the WAFC timekeeper to stop the timer (or reinstate the missed time)?

Unholytugboat wrote:

Local Footy wrote:

Unholytugboat wrote:

Unholytugboat wrote:

Local Footy wrote:

Unholytugboat wrote: Obviously Whitford had a timekeeper, how else do u think people are aware of the situation

they did local footy, they sat together the whole game, how else do u think this situation ended up?

Did the Whitford time keeper then approach the Collegians time keeper and reset the clock then?

When this happens all you need to do is have the 2 time keepers stand together and get the same time.

they did local footy, they sat together the whole game, how else do u think this situation ended up?

So how the hell did your timekeeper let him ring the siren then?

Keep up mate, he was drunk he did what he wanted

The unmpire was drunk?.... must have been better umpring than normal then

the boys tried to play keepie off with 4 minutes to go and 8 pts ahead and you could just sense that they were going to turn it over and make the last minute or so very tense , in the end it was a huge relief to get the points

Sledge wrote:

houdini wrote: stirling by 11 pts in a tight one

Stirling won by 2 points in a tight one. Led all day with Scarbrough coming back at them late.
Anyone know if the Scarbrough ressies player who went to hospital is ok?

By far one the weirdest complaints I've ever read.
It's seems as though it was handbags at 20 paces. I'd suggest the lack of backbone from the Whitfords timekeeper is to blame..should have put up more of a case..
In the end though it's community football. So it's just one of those things, I wouldn't dwell on it and let it ruin your season.

The_Duck......You want a "no result" called for the game and 2 points awarded to both sides due to a potential mistake by an official? The umpire called a push in the back in the third quarter of the game i watched on the weekend, but it was clearly not a push and the player just fell forward, do we have a case for a "no result" at the mistake of the official?

There's no point repeating myself as I think we have all wasted enough time on this.
At the end of the day, the undeniable, undisputable fact is this:

The Timekeeper breached the WAAFL by-laws by not stopping the clock as instructed by the field umpire.

Everyone makes mistakes Duck. Players, coaches, officials, umpires. Cant just grill one individual for a mistake at amateur level football. I presume this person is also a volunteer?

The_Duck wrote: There's no point repeating myself as I think we have all wasted enough time on this.
At the end of the day, the undeniable, undisputable fact is this:

The Timekeeper breached the WAAFL by-laws by not stopping the clock as instructed by the field umpire.

If you feel aggrieved by the situation and feel that there is an obvious breach of the by-laws that (potentially) changed the result, the club should lodge a protest with the WAAFL today.