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Grassy wrote: Now can we have a Productivity Commission Report on Outrageous Salaries and Bonuses,please?

No?I wonder why?

Oh yeah!That'd be classified as Class Warfare,eh?!

The Commission was designed by Labor and the Commissioner appointed by Labor, he weighed up all the evidence and made a finding.

Shorten always pledged to accept the commissions findings when it was established as labor claimed it was the fairest way of dealing with these matters.

Ffs ... except the umpires decision and move on.

swan42 wrote:

Bazza wrote: Cafes are hospitality I would of thought, if covered by Federal awards.

I can't remember the person's name but it was specifically said that today's ruling did not cover cafes.

Some would be and some wouldn't be covered depending on whether its a State or Federal Award, the large chains Jamaica Blue, Coffee Club etc would be Federal the smaller independent ones State.

Bazza wrote:

Grassy wrote: Now can we have a Productivity Commission Report on Outrageous Salaries and Bonuses,please?

No?I wonder why?

Oh yeah!That'd be classified as Class Warfare,eh?!

The Commission was designed by Labor and the Commissioner appointed by Labor, he weighed up all the evidence and made a finding.

Shorten always pledged to accept the commissions findings when it was established as labor claimed it was the fairest way of dealing with these matters.

Ffs ... except the umpires decision and move on.

I also thought it was humorous the Labor party clown who stood next to Shorten at a pressie complaining yesterday saying he'll be $109 a week worse off is actually covered by an enterprise agreement and won't be affected at all.

swan42 wrote:

BC wrote: yep...I also find it interesting the Fair Work Commission was Rudd's handy work in 2009 and all you socialists and union stooges are blaming the current government for its decision today...go figure.

BC WHERE did I say it was the current government for its decision?

why is everything about you?

Commonsense decision people need to start living in the real world. Probably doesn't go far enough for mine but it's one of those things where it needs to be done incrementally.

For the short sighted people they need to understand what goes around comes around, it's a win win in the long run for the consumer and more jobs and everyone, including those workers affected are consumers.

Ultimately it will result in business being able to stay open longer, employ more staff and lower prices. How in the hell can you expect a business to make a profit when they have to pay double wages? It is ridiculous and it's a choice, if you don't want to work Saturdays or Sundays for an extra 50%,if that doesn't tickle your fancy then stick to the standard rates on offer Monday to Friday and I GUARANTEE there will be hundreds of others willing to take your weekend hours.

I am self employed in an industry where we get paid the same regardless of what hours or days we work and our slice of the pie has recently gotten thinner. And we don't get any sympathy from our customers because as far as they are concerned they are the winners.

So as far as I'm concerned why should others be privileged to receive double pay for doing the same job, be bloody grateful you can get a 50% bonus because it's a Saturday or Sunday or make your choice and don't do it and stop whinging.

Spot on DD, how the hell they justify paying 250% over the normal wage on a public holiday is just mind boggling.

Bazza wrote: Spot on DD, how the hell they justify paying 250% over the normal wage on a public holiday is just mind boggling.

Those who work weekends and public holidays aren't working 7 days a week I can guarantee it. They have their "weekend" during the week and in these modern days there is so much entertainment going on every day of the week and bars and restaurants are usually open 7 days a week. If you love your sport and must be there on a Saturday or Sunday then don't work, simple as that. I make choices when I work and when I don't based on lifestyle and what's important to me.

I do believe however our emergency services workers such as the police, paramedics, nurses and firies do deserve their penalties as they are not only working unsociable hours, they are in a dangerous occupation having to deal with dangerous people in dangerous situations. That extends also to linesmen and women who have to go out in bad weather and fix damaged electricity poles and wires to get our power back on.

I can tell you Police Officers penalty arrangements are nothing like this.

The way the Police Award works , is you are paid a flat single payment as a "shift penalty". So if you work a weekend you are not paid double time each hour. You just receive one payment , that was about $16.00 extra for the entire shift. They have increased to about $50.00 now.

So from what I can see Retail etc are cleaning up.

Bazza wrote: I can tell you Police Officers penalty arrangements are nothing like this.

The way the Police Award works , is you are paid a flat single payment as a "shift penalty". So if you work a weekend you are not paid double time each hour. You just receive one payment , that was about $16.00 extra for the entire shift. They have increased to about $50.00 now.

So from what I can see Retail etc are cleaning up.

Without reflecting at all on any of those involved in the service, could you please outline their annual leave and sick leave entitlements? I repeat the question is not a reflection of the worth of their work, but it is an attempt to get the whole picture.

Sure

Police Officers receive No Public Holidays , they are rostered on all these days as per normal, including Christmas and Easter etc, please note there are no "shift penalty" paid if you work a Christmas Day etc unless it falls on a weekend, or is Night/Arvo Shift, in other words its a normal day.

In Lieu of that they are give 10 days extra annual leave - so 4 normal plus 2 weeks for compensation for the public holidays.

In terms of Sick Leave, unlike all other worker Police Officers are NOT entitled to Workers Compensation, i.e. if you are injured on the job you don't get normal paid workers comp or a payout. In lieu of that Officers are granted a max of 6 months paid sick leave a year, please not this does NOT accumulate. Also as no workers comp is paid the employer covers medical costs.