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Grassy wrote: You know what that Satisfactory Alternative us with me!

You think it's not possible and true,the odds aren't good.

Doesn't mean we give up campaigning for their Removal from the Competition,to the VFL.

I get that people who follow the WAFL have loyalties to the Eagles and Dockers.But that's the AFL Competition,this is the WAFL and what's at stake here is most important.

This is a Competition that has been part of Western Australia for 131 years,but the presence of the AFL Clubs in the Competition,has caused nothing but trouble and I for one,have never been convinced for one second that they are here to help,nor are they here for the reasons,they said back in August 2012.

It is time for them to Leave.Not later,but NOW!!!!

Mate most would be in your court but it aint gunna happen. They pleaded to not having enough money to run a team in a reserves or VFL comp, but fell over them selves to find money for a womens team in the new national comp. Not saying there shouldn't be a national womens comp, but any chance of that reserves comp is gone forever and they wont be pulling out of the WAFL, it's too convenient and cost effective for them. Peel will stay Peelmantle and the Eagles will establish their own ressies team in the WAFL like the Crows have done in the SANFL as soon as the deal with EP finishes and they are in your clubs backyard and like it or not that's what we have to deal with. Really the only choice we have is to continue to follow our clubs till the bitter end or walk away and follow the round ball game or the cross country wrestling.

gtrxuone: I too would rather see the alignment teams at full strength to avoid what happened last year. If they win the competition from where they finished, as you pointted out, they deserve to win the flag. Neither of the alignment teams should of made the finals, neither was particularlly strong, but, that is a regret we will have to live with as WAFL supporters.

There is not just the question of CL losing games they should have won, EF falling short, but the failure of the Lions to win that game played at Subi did not help matters -- we lost by 2 points because we failled to kick straight on the day.

BH I hear your pain: if Peel do win the bloody thing, it will stay with me for a long long time; but, as we have agreed in the past, we have been the victims of Victorian imperialism -- a powerful force when supported by most of the elites and people in WA. Among all the nonsense, I still take pride in the fact that, overall, the WAFL is the second best competition in the land. This has been proved recently by our representative team in state games. We still own our two licences and, unlike SA, have not let one of its founding clubs be completely destroyed and then have their own supporters sing about it at AFL games. Most, of all BH, whatever happens with the alignment in the future, they can never erase your memories of your beloved SD; or for that matter, even more importantlly, the fact that SD voted the right way in 1986.

Grassy wrote: You know what that Satisfactory Alternative us with me!

You think it's not possible and true,the odds aren't good.

Doesn't mean we give up campaigning for their Removal from the Competition,to the VFL.

I get that people who follow the WAFL have loyalties to the Eagles and Dockers.But that's the AFL Competition,this is the WAFL and what's at stake here is most important.

This is a Competition that has been part of Western Australia for 131 years,but the presence of the AFL Clubs in the Competition,has caused nothing but trouble and I for one,have never been convinced for one second that they are here to help,nor are they here for the reasons,they said back in August 2012.

It is time for them to Leave.Not later,but NOW!!!!

Well unless you get back in that time machine and go back to the eighties it isn't going to happen, maybe contact Marty Atkins and ask why they went ahead and I'll put in polite terms agreed wth the host club situation, seems to me your whinging about something you're club isn't worried about.

ArkRoyal wrote: gtrxuone: I too would rather see the alignment teams at full strength to avoid what happened last year. If they win the competition from where they finished, as you pointted out, they deserve to win the flag. Neither of the alignment teams should of made the finals, neither was particularlly strong, but, that is a regret we will have to live with as WAFL supporters.

There is not just the question of CL losing games they should have won, EF falling short, but the failure of the Lions to win that game played at Subi did not help matters -- we lost by 2 points because we failled to kick straight on the day.

BH I hear your pain: if Peel do win the bloody thing, it will stay with me for a long long time; but, as we have agreed in the past, we have been the victims of Victorian imperialism -- a powerful force when supported by most of the elites and people in WA. Among all the nonsense, I still take pride in the fact that, overall, the WAFL is the second best competition in the land. This has been proved recently by our representative team in state games. We still own our two licences and, unlike SA, have not let one of its founding clubs be completely destroyed and then have their own supporters sing about it at AFL games. Most, of all BH, whatever happens with the alignment in the future, they can never erase your memories of your beloved SD; or for that matter, even more importantlly, the fact that SD voted the right way in 1986.

AR I was more referring to your point about EP being able to recruit from outside if they finish below 3rd on the ladder!
What a bloody joke if that is the case!
As if 44 Eagles outsiders is not enough....not too mention the finish below 3rd part fair dinkum in 6 years as a host club they have finished 1st- 3 times (2000,01,02), 2nd- 1 time (14), 3rd- 1 time (15) & 5th (16) making finals in every year.
That is real struggle town that is!

Freezin wrote: Peel play too many it's a farce...they play not enough it's a farce....

...all the WAFL need to do is raise the games quota played from 5 to 10 minimum.....be interested to see how many of those 18 Freo boys would even be playing this weekend.....about 7 - 9 in total?.......is that a better number?....or are folk gonna still think it is farce?

The more Freo or WCE ring ins play the less opportunities for the locals I guess...hopefully encouraging them to go else where.....but then is that a good thing going to another club and taking a local players spot?.....

I ask again......would it be such a farce for folk here if each WAFL club kept their locally drafted boys?

Freez IMO bumping up the eligibility criteria to a minimum of 12 - 15 games would be more appropriate than the 5 games. at present. We then wouldn't be having to eal with this issue of 17 plus Fremantle players etc.
There are clauses in the WAFL Rules and Regulations for the WAFL club CEO'S to meet to determine the Partnering Model mechanics, be interesting to hear if the issue has ever been talked about at that level?

BH I am 100 per cent with you on the recruitment thing; I am absolutely certain that Peel has recritted whilst under the alignement, exploitting that same rule. It annoys me no end that the Commission includes a provision, such as the above, to prevent an alignment team becoming too weak; but, has no provision whatsoever to prevent an alignment team being too strong in the competition, although, as you stress, above, rightly, this season will be the first where EP has finished below third as an alignment team.

We need to keep in mind too that, as well as finishing below third for the first-time, EP have just lost two of their better players to retirement; a development, which, will only encourage the club to recruit if it is within the alignment rules.

They will probably pick up Fraser McInness and Brandt College.

swan42 wrote: I was going to have a break over the summer to recover from 2016 and to be fully rejuvenated for the 2017 season and the state election in March. However, there comes a time when one has to stand up and reply to the nonsense that purports to celebrate Peel's first win in a WAFL final. How can any sane person suggest that a team of 17 AFL aligned players out of a total of 22 can be a Peel team? It is ridiculous in the extreme. It is nothing more nor less than a complete and utter farce.

According to the WAFL site a grand total of 2,834 attended the match at Rushton Park. Just how much proof does the WAFC require that the host club alignment is killing the WAFL competition? Ignoring the Swans, East Freo and Subiaco supporters from the 2,834 there were two clubs playing in the league that are aligned with the two WA domiciled AFL clubs. Two clubs that would have over 100,000 members combined and the crowd was under 3,000.

Once again I call on the WAFC to resign en masse or grow a backbone and start making decisions that support the WAFL competition. The only conclusion to be drawn from the actions of the WAFC is that they are actively trying to destroy the WAFL competition and clubs.

I also note and I am no supporter of what used to be East Perth that the WAFC have scheduled a colts' game featuring East Perth at 9.55 am at Leederville and a reserves' game featuring East Perth at 11.30 am at Joondalup. Why doesn't the WAFC complete their disgrace and disdain for the WAFL competition by informing the Eagles they play whomever they like in the Reserves' final.

Is it possible to have more contempt for the WAFC than for the Liberal Party?

Pretty sure Williamstown had 16 Collingwood players in their GF side in VFL a few years back (about 10), not the time to check all facts but pretty confident of that. Andre Williams ex WCE was one of those players and this happened

He eventually returned to Victoria in 2003 when he was traded to Collingwood in return for Damien Adkins. Williams had a solid first year for the Magpies, playing 22 games before suffering injury in the Qualifying Final against Brisbane. As a result, he missed selection to Collingwoods Grand Final side but was controversially allowed to play in Williamstown's VFL Grand Final victory, his first game for the Seagulls.

Leedy wrote: Boys, we will be ok, we have a bloody good knack of knocking off fully blown alignment sides, lets hope it continues. Examples being-

Peel on many occasions.
SF in the 1999 GF.
EP in the 2013 GF.
EP in the 2015 Prelim.

Not going to happen this year I think Leedy, WP were lucky to finish where they did on the ladder.

kirbs wrote:

Leedy wrote: Boys, we will be ok, we have a bloody good knack of knocking off fully blown alignment sides, lets hope it continues. Examples being-

Peel on many occasions.
SF in the 1999 GF.
EP in the 2013 GF.
EP in the 2015 Prelim.

Not going to happen this year I think Leedy, WP were lucky to finish where they did on the ladder.

Bit harsh Kirbs, after a slow start and a heap of injuries Joondy had what I believe was the best/longest winning streak of any team this year, they have earned their spot and hopefully will play with a passion for the jumper that the aligned clubs just cant match.