TOPIC:

Cardy wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Senior Seagull wrote: I think Swandog sums up a lot of what opposition supporters are thinking. No one seems to be able to present irrefutable facts around this issue, but that will certainly happen if WP are removed from the finals which in my opinion will make the finals a farce. If that happens expect WP will take immediate legal action and probably initially in the form of an injunction which would prevent any action being taken until a full court hearing, so if the timing is right they will be free to play in the finals.

Until then, until the actual facts are tabled for all to see we are just guessing what has happened to date, but this is making the WAFL a laughing stock and it is the WAFC that should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute for not getting this resolved months ago.

But on the other hand ........ in the highly unexpected event that WP are shown to have miss-lead everyone about the timing of contract signings then they will become a true WAFL pariah.

SS a couple of simple questions:

Is Channel 9 in its second year of sponsoring West Perth?

When did the WAFC and Channel 7 sign their agreement?

SWAN42 if you bothered reading the article I have put on here 3 times re the article between the WAFC and CEO WP you would have your questions answered.

WP signed Channel 9 on as a sponsor on Feb 28 2014
WAFC Signed the contract with CHN7 on 7 March 2015

Here is the article again

www.communitynews.com.au/news/TV-issue-h...-finals-loom/7673158

I am a bit confused about the first para that says the money was not paid to Chn 7 but to a production company...... Production company????? what production company... another play on words by Waldron as all media reports say CHN 7 were paid 1 million for televising the WAFL... I suspect this is another play or words for want of a better term as you would most probably find the Production company is owned by 7

Cardy the questions I asked were rhetorical in nature. I have ABSOLUTELY NO LOVE for your club but I am absolutely 100% behind your club's right to get sponsorship from a perfectly legal business.

I reiterate Messrs Walton et al should resign because they are totally responsible for this situation.

We have a Mickey Mouse type coverage by Channel 7 and not all rounds were televised. Disgraceful and incompetent are the words that come to mind.

re:How much is being paid to telecast the WAFL and who is calling the tune.

That's one of the many questions that needs answering S42. The figure reported is a million $. Why cannot an accurate figure be forthcoming? Or is that figure correct?
It sounds very much like the so called commission were desperate at the time and grabbed the first deal to come along? I would be happy to be proved wrong on that point. Sounds like the telecaster tail wags the dog! The latest media release does not instil a great deal of confidence!

re: We have a Mickey Mouse type coverage and not all rounds were televised. Disgraceful and incompetent are the words that come to mind.

No disrespect to the Keystone cops but keystone capers would be another good descriptive. Inept could be another word coming to mind.

Cardy, the Channel Nine sign on the scoreboard is not a problem. Channel Seven have a fixed camera on the scoreboard. All they do is focus on the score area and cross to that camera, its not even manned. I was in the supermarket today and people are talking about this issue at the checkout, everybody is BAGGING Channel Seven. One bloke said he deleted Channel Seven from his TV.

I wonder what CHN 7 are paying the EPFC in sponsership? Seems strange that they sponser EP (Eagles) and get the media as well..
EPFC made their first profit for years and from all reports could not of maintained the losses they were making even to the extent they would of had to go into receivership.
Now they are laughing all the way to the bank with a nice profit last year due to the Eagles paying all their costs. While other WAFL clubs have to find 1 to 1.5 million a year to run their club.

I heard yesterday that it goes deeper than just the 7 Sponsership and the New stadium is also involved and the WAFC has a bigger agenda with 7.. Possibly 7 having the AFL contract at the New stadium and they didnt want any conflict with 9 etc etc etc.

I would love to see the bidding for the contract/tender by CHN9 and Chn (refering to a Anal passage ) 7. Was it done correctly and via due process? If as has been said the WAFC had already made up their mind they have committed an offence!!!!!!!!!
It is obvious looking at the makeup of the Committee at the WAFC THEY ALL HAVE VESTED INTERESTS..

What a tangled web the WAFC is creating and all is not as meets the eye.

Maybe the WA Govt should step in and do an investigation into the whole sham and due a review and audit of the WAFC and their operations.
They have it made it quite clear they have no idea on how to run a Football code and are totally incompetent.

EPFC first profit for years is that accurate.

Larry Bird wrote: EPFC first profit for years is that accurate.

Ok Larry EP did make a profit in 2013 but lets not forget they played a GF in that year and The cheque book was open The alignment commenced in 2014

The club was pleased to announce a profit of $356,083 for the 2014 season. This follows a profit $98,229 in 2013.
Total turnover for the 2014 season was $2,033,328.
These results come on the back of tight budgetary measures implemented by the Board.
This outstanding financial result coincides with the club's Minor Premiership, Grand Final and Foxtel Cup Semi Final appearance.

But note

East Perth, through the board and without member consultation, agree to become "partner" club to the West Coast Eagles for 5 years. In brief this means that all unrequired players at the West Coast Eagles will play for East Perth. The decision was initially met with a lot of disdain by a lot of members, however after an information evening the majority in attendance accepted that the financial stability offered by the deal made it worthwhile. Without it East Perth would be in danger of being forced to merge or closing up. While some transition will occur in 2013 (East Perth give up their Dockers players and get all new interstate Eagles recruits), the partnership won't come into full effect until 2014.

The 7 G7 clubs would receive 525,000 from the WAFC. Remembering these clubs would have large costs to run their clubs up to 1.5 million plus whereas the Aligned clubs would have the full support of the 2 AFL clubs.

I will add the WPFC Results for 2014... Thanks in part to the CHANNEL 9 SPONSERSHIP

West Perth..

THE West Perth Football Club has announced a profit in excess of $2000 for the 2014 WAFL season signifying a turnaround of almost $300,000 on 2013 in what is an outstanding result capitalising on the hard work of those at the Falcons and of the significant support provided.

WAFC From Brett Raponi's 2014 address to members DATED DEC 23 2014

The Address by the WPFC President also alludes to the CHN 7 Media contract

West Perth president Brett Raponi has used his year-ending address to club members to call on the West Australian Football Commission to work harder to secure football's financial future.

much of the WAFC's income is earned through its management of Patersons Stadium. It leases the ground to the AFL for both West Coast and Fremantle home games, while also collecting big fees for rugby games and concerts held at the home of football.

But the State Government wants a clean stadium at Burswood and will seek a commercial venue manager. The WAFC has formed a consortium to bid for the operating rights.
"The Premier must be held to account," Raponi said.

I think it’s time the commission explores this because any shortfall that the WAFC has will affect football in this state. And that is the WAFL, country football, amateur football and junior football, not the AFL."

Raponi said he had written to WAFC chairman Frank Cooper and chief executive Gary Walton about several issues and had urged them to stand up to the AFL.

Bretts comment on CHANNEL 7 DEAL WHEN GIVING THE ADDRESS

He was also unhappy that the draft fees paid to WAFL clubs were being reduced, continuing his address by allaying his concerns over the commission not yet being able to secure a television broadcast deal for 2015.

"The TV deal is still in a state of flux," he said.

"The commission has signed an MOU with Channel 7. But there's no sponsor. They (the WAFC) believe it will be on Channel 7 next year, but the fact they have not made an announcement says it must be somewhat in doubt."

When asked by members whether a Channel 7 deal would create a conflict because West Perth was sponsored by Channel 9, Raponi said it was a "non-issue". He said Channel 9 would again feature prominently on the front of West Perth’s jumper in 2015.

"Our deal was signed in February," Raponi said.

"The commission are fully aware of our partnership with Channel 9 and also fully aware of our precarious financial state.

Full article at

www.westperthfc.com.au/news/7744/falcons...n-it-around-agm-2014


I am of the opinion this address by Brett Raponi clears the WPFC of any wrong doing and full transperancy in getting the CHN 9 Sponsorship remembering the Sponsorship was already in place. Brett said above it was a NON ISSUE and the WAFC were fully aware of the sponsership

WP signed Channel 9 on as a sponsor on Feb 28 2014
WAFC Signed the contract with CHN7 on 7 March 2015

What about the years preceding that Cardy out of interest. Do you think the profit announced by EP last year was the real figure. I have my doubts personally.

Mate when you consider the cost of running a WAFL G7 club I doubt it and books can be cooked. We see it all the time with AFL and NRL clubs with salary caps etc etc. Basically it is something we can do nothing about and I am a believer in if you cant change it dont worry about it. Basically I see it as incorrect as the Eagles provided support staff, Pay the wages of the coach/players etc etc that add up to a huge amount. Really nothing to do with the topic and it has been covered in other topics. The reason I bought it up was the income of G7 clubs compared with the 2 aligned PLASTIC CLUBS and you will notice I tried to keep it on topic.. Not gunna have a debate about the Peel/EPFC on this topic but you can see how it flows on with the CHN 7 sponsership of the EPFC and I would like someone to come up with a figure on how much CHN 7 puts into the club as well and WHY. Time to move on.

I found this comment interesting and hypocritical by Turner in the statement of their sponsers at EPFC

Mr Turner said one of the biggest challenges WAFL clubs face is the ongoing pressures of running the clubs as a sustainable business

old.eastperthfc.com.au/latest-news/excit...the-west-australian/

Larry Bird wrote: What about the years preceding that Cardy out of interest. Do you think the profit announced by EP last year was the real figure. I have my doubts personally.

LB so now you are doubting the integrity of the officials of your "club". Just as a matter of curiosity are you suggesting that the profit was more or less than the stated profit?

I doubt everything I hear Swan. You wouldn't over report would you. What have EP profit/losses been over the last ten years.