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as a Swans supporter can you please provide the information on how Swans get a leg up from BHP ?
you obviously have some information on the financials to support such a claim ?
thanks.

My message is to Country Member. Sir you are a genius and bang on with everything you say.

Anyone running a comp who was doing their job properly would have been looking into the PFC situation years ago.

I have said it before and I'll say it again -we do not do things that much differently from other Clubs and many things we do a lot better. Other than Subi whose financial position has improved as much as ours this century.

We are not mugs and even if we were DUMB LUCK would get you into or close to finals every now and again with a top 4/5 in a 9 team comp.

Something is wrong and it is deeper than the admin or Board who do things at least as well if not better than other Clubs.

If a Club in the AFL had performed as PFC have done over last 20 years the AFL would be all over it - our WAFC, nothing. They have a review and its doesn't even rate a mention.

Freezin wrote: Just makes sense Bazza...yeah sad from a traditional perspective but hey both clubs lived together many moons ago...circle of life...if EF can re-establish itself financially then all good..I thought with the council moving in for a while any move or decision regarding the two clubs sharing was at a stand still?

Yeah true BC...bet none of the Perth or SD fans gave a flying fark when their teams were strong and Subi were getting pantsed in those 49 years....was the comp even then?...if so why were Subi so poor on and off the footy field?

In the haycyon days of the WAFL , I cant say the comp was really even , if it was how does one club like EF come to really dominate it with so many flags ? and then the likes of Subi and to a lesser extent Perth so rarely appear as a dominant over a period of 50 or 60 yrs when the WANFL was the only show in town, it all came down to access to local juniors and country stars back then and then as time went on who could generate the most money through sponsors and bar takings and grab recruits pay clearances and then pay match day payments, this of course ended up sending clubs pretty broke.

Freeze things have changed greatly at Old Easts compared to pre AFL days for your club, for better of for worse the direction is now very different, but you can comfort your self that a swag of flags were won when they really meant something.

Stand the Test wrote: My message is to Country Member. Sir you are a genius and bang on with everything you say.

Anyone running a comp who was doing their job properly would have been looking into the PFC situation years ago.

I have said it before and I'll say it again -we do not do things that much differently from other Clubs and many things we do a lot better. Other than Subi whose financial position has improved as much as ours this century.

We are not mugs and even if we were DUMB LUCK would get you into or close to finals every now and again with a top 4/5 in a 9 team comp.

Something is wrong and it is deeper than the admin or Board who do things at least as well if not better than other Clubs.

If a Club in the AFL had performed as PFC have done over last 20 years the AFL would be all over it - our WAFC, nothing. They have a review and its doesn't even rate a mention.

Bar Subi with the seating cash and the two aligned clubs, all the other clubs just have to do what they can the survive on and off the field, the other clubs have managed to have some success , via hard work and planning , I don't see why Perth should be given any special treatment tbh...its up to yourselves to sort your failures out.

Yeah righto Bazza.

In general the PFC has not had the talent. The one exception was around the turn of the 21 century. Had players, such as Franklin played 110 games for PFC, I am certain the red and blacks would have broken their premiership drought. The system is so warpped these days that clubs which have had talent over the last tewnty years, such as Old Easts, don't win the flag.

ArkRoyal wrote: In general the PFC has not had the talent. The one exception was around the turn of the 21 century. Had players, such as Franklin played 110 games for PFC, I am certain the red and blacks would have broken their premiership drought. The system is so warpped these days that clubs which have had talent over the last tewnty years, such as Old Easts, don't win the flag.

Claremont has lost a heap as well.

BC wrote: I understand where you're coming from mate and I also think it's a bit rich for some on here to bitch and moan given the bogans get a leg up from BHP etc but I'm also about the long term sustainability of the WAFL and to assist in that regard I do think the WAFC should look at putting additional things in place beyond the points and salary caps to even out the comp. it's time to think outside the box and maybe something like the WAFC distributing its annual grants to clubs based on their percentage of home grown talent playing league over the year....Claremont would receive more and Subi less...incentivize the promotion of local juniors seems a bit of a no brainer to me.

I like the sound of this...You could even go further and restrict the numbers of interstate recruits....

Wasn't there supposed to be a limit of 3 Interstate players at each club just before the points cap came in?
Seems to have gone by the wayside with the advent of alignments mk11.

When the zones were brought in to the WAFL around 1969 it is interesting to note EVERY WAFL club won at least 2 Premierships in the next 20 years some won 3 (EF, SD, CL, SU).
So that would suggest the zones were working in evening up the WAFL up until the introduction of the WAFC in 1989.
And since then we have had piss farting around with the zones the introduction of WC, Freo, Peel, the benefits of the VFL/AFL games played at Subiaco Oval for Subiaco, alignments mk1 & mk11 and it has totally stuffed up the competition from an even spread to the bullshit we have today with same clubs dominating year after year due to alignments, Subiaco Oval $$$$ etc.

Food for thought if the WAFC is dinkum in having an even WAFL competition into the future maybe just look back to the past to see what made the comp have every side win at least 2 or 3 flags in a 20 year time period!

What the Commission should do is campaign fo the draft age to be raised by one or two years; in this way, clubs can get some use out of the talent which is in their zones. This can be done easily by threatening to withdraw the EAgles and Dockers from the AFL. Naturally, such a thought would never have occurred to members of the Commission because they do not govern in the interests of WA football in its totallity.