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Mr AFL wrote: I was speaking to a bloke on Saturday about Tim Hunt and here's roughly what he had to say.

"Tim played some VFL football for Collingwood. Has good pace and a reasonable kick on him. His more probably more of an outside footballer but can still go in and find his own ball. With his game he should be more suited to the bigger grounds over here in WA. He was coming off an injury last season, hence his delayed start to the year and why he was playing in the two's. Was close to getting a game but then obviously had a bit of bad luck and did his shoulder."

Personally from what I've seen of him I'd be prepared to give him a chance. However I did pose the question on here last month about the possibility of Tim sitting out the rest of the year and getting his body right but still training with us in preparation for 2015. That allows us 10 points to go and have a crack at trying to fill one or two holes as best we can for the remainder of the year. We probably wont strike gold like we did with J. Morton but surely 1-2 players in the WAFL reserves from the other 8 clubs could play a role in our side.

I think we will disagree on Hunt,if he was any good he would have cracked a league game within the first 5 weeks.
From what i've seen of him he's not a 10 point player.
10 point midfielders should be your 'A' graders.

I think your mate that said that read it rather than "that was his opinion"
That's what was written on Hunt's player profile from over east.
I read it pre-season!

Regardless as a struggling club we cant afford to have 10 point players not in the league team.,injury is one thing,form and playing ressies is another.

Ressie players from other clubs can be list cloggers.
Morton had an AFL background and wasnt just your run of the mill ressie player and for whatever reason fell out at Claremont.

We need to get our recruiting right and ressie wafl players would be down the bottom of my recruiting strategy.

Fair enough 30plus. I never said it was his opinion that's just what he told me.

I too agree that 10 point players should be your A graders. I've said for years now get the coaching structures right from the development teams (13-16) and try and have as many home grown 1 point players as possible. I've seen a lot of potential league players come through this club but for some reason or another they just don't come on.

For me your 10 or more point players need to be blokes like a Josh Smith, Paul Bevan, Ross Young or a Tallen Ames.

Back to the topic.

The team's endeavour was undoubted on Saturday.
The turnaround for Swans needs to be put into context.

Irons injured in 1st quarter, one down on bench.
2 down on the bench for the entire 2nd half.
3 down on the bench for the entire last quarter.

Maybe explains the fatigue in the final term.

Whoever decided to send Sinclair back out there and put him in the forward pocket in the last quarter needs to be sacked immediately. The kid could hardly walk let alone run, hence was unable to take advantage of the opportunity to kick that goal.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.

I hope the kid doesn't miss extra time out because of the stupidity.

Demons Forever wrote: Back to the topic.

The team's endeavour was undoubted on Saturday.
The turnaround for Swans needs to be put into context.

Irons injured in 1st quarter, one down on bench.
2 down on the bench for the entire 2nd half.
3 down on the bench for the entire last quarter.
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Maybe explains the fatigue in the final term.

Whoever decided to send Sinclair back out there and put him in the forward pocket in the last quarter needs to be sacked immediately. The kid could hardly walk let alone run, hence was unable to take advantage of the opportunity to kick that goal.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.

I hope the kid doesn't miss extra time out because of the stupidity.

KPI's forever. KPI
You already know the answer to that.

Demons Forever wrote: Back to the topic.

The team's endeavour was undoubted on Saturday.
The turnaround for Swans needs to be put into context.

Irons injured in 1st quarter, one down on bench.
2 down on the bench for the entire 2nd half.
3 down on the bench for the entire last quarter.

Maybe explains the fatigue in the final term.

Whoever decided to send Sinclair back out there and put him in the forward pocket in the last quarter needs to be sacked immediately. The kid could hardly walk let alone run, hence was unable to take advantage of the opportunity to kick that goal.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.

I hope the kid doesn't miss extra time out because of the stupidity.

Remember they were also down 1 with Elari early in the second term.
We didnt come out after half time,we stopped well before fatigue stepped in.

This is also what happens when you decide to use Risol as a swingman on the weekend,Back,Forward and in the Ruck,even with a full bench that guy was going to be stuffed well before the end of the game.

So while i accept we were down on the bench (as were Swans to a lesser degree) i wont use that as an excuse for the effort put in by some in the last half.
I agree re-Sinclair.

Teams have gone on and scored some memorable victories with "no bench",with what was at stake thats what was required on Saturday.

Just picture early in the last term O'Sullivan makes the cardinal sin in footy he waits for the ball to come to him instead of attacking the footy taking the mark waltzing inside 50 and kicking the easy goal,that would have been a team lifter.
Instead because of his lackadaisical effort the ball is turned-over and resulted in a Swans goal,thats all she wrote!!

I agree re Risol 30+. The swingman role would not have been necessary had we played a second ruckman, something the coach has always tried to avoid for some obscure reason. With Risol jumping forward,back and in the ruck put a heap of pressure on Morton and Billings and allowed Geappen to run riot.

OK, so Power and Lyendekkers were still injured but we had nothing to lose by giving either Borrett or Biggs an opportunity to show what they have. Even Hoghton could have been back to fill in and provide some extra hsight.

Agree totally re Sinclair... stupid, stupid to send him back out there.

Looked to me like Risol went everywhere Notte went on Saturday and its was Notte being moved back in the second quarter when we got 37 points up that forced Risol up forward. Decisions were being made in the Swans coaches box not ours.

Not sure we had a lot of choices down back. Billings I thought did a good job on Carey so moving him to Geappen wasn't an option. Looked to me like Morton, Sinclair and O'Sullivan all had a go on Geappen and he pantsed all of them.

When you are coaching for your life you tend to do desperate things like threatening to play Leyendeckers who'd been out for a month or sending Sinclair back on.

That "miss" by O'Sullivan running into the forward line five minutes into the last quarter was the game changer. The floodgates opened after that.

Both teams were down numbers on the bench, Perth more so but that effort after about the 20 minute mark of the second quarter was weak by both players and coaches.

When Swans kicked three in a row I would have but 2 or maybe even three numbers behind the ball. Yes it wouldn't have been pretty but we may have been able to absorb some pressure and stop them scoring for 4-5 minutes.

And yes that play by O'Sullivan I reckon summed up the second half and put a nail in the coffin of the players mental state.

This year for me has been the most frustrating out of recent years. Promise so much but just can't seem to deliver. How many times have we seen the side play football like a top 3 team this year and then in the same game play like a bottom three side.

That first quarter and a half our disposal efficiency must have been around 85% maybe even 90%. After that it dropped to around 30%.

Mr AFL wrote: Both teams were down numbers on the bench, Perth more so but that effort after about the 20 minute mark of the second quarter was weak by both players and coaches.

When Swans kicked three in a row I would have but 2 or maybe even three numbers behind the ball. Yes it wouldn't have been pretty but we may have been able to absorb some pressure and stop them scoring for 4-5 minutes.

And yes that play by O'Sullivan I reckon summed up the second half and put a nail in the coffin of the players mental state.

This year for me has been the most frustrating out of recent years. Promise so much but just can't seem to deliver. How many times have we seen the side play football like a top 3 team this year and then in the same game play like a bottom three side.

That first quarter and a half our disposal efficiency must have been around 85% maybe even 90%. After that it dropped to around 30%.

Absolutely spot on. That move should have been pulled in a few games this season when we've had teams go nuts for 5-10 minutes and kick bagfulls. I'm all for playing "our way" but you need to be able to respond when the opposition get a roll on and for me that's when teams kick more than two in a row. Doesn't happen often enough or quickly enough for my liking.

Dazzler wrote: Looked to me like Risol went everywhere Notte went on Saturday and its was Notte being moved back in the second quarter when we got 37 points up that forced Risol up forward. Decisions were being made in the Swans coaches box not ours.

Not sure we had a lot of choices down back. Billings I thought did a good job on Carey so moving him to Geappen wasn't an option. Looked to me like Morton, Sinclair and O'Sullivan all had a go on Geappen and he pantsed all of them.

When you are coaching for your life you tend to do desperate things like threatening to play Leyendeckers who'd been out for a month or sending Sinclair back on.

That "miss" by O'Sullivan running into the forward line five minutes into the last quarter was the game changer. The floodgates opened after that.

That in part is true Dazzler,it was our coach that decided to run with Notte.
I personally would have just had Risol on Notte in the backline.
We erred going into the game with just 1 ruckman...not that that would have been a game breaker on our part but it would help with the rotations.

I thought Morton was on Geappen for the longest period of time,this bloke generally tears us a new one every time we play Swans.

I just dont know where O'Sullivan fits into this team?,wheres his best possie,he played a lot in the midfield on Saturday,he looks lost in there.