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Southerner wrote: Oh no it's not .... he was a Souths player/colt to begin with before Richmond and then the unfortunate Jail term .... you guys recruited him when he was released ... no crap

Yeh mate because we were the ones who offered him a second chance and looked after him and stuck by him, the fact he played colts at South years before means shit!

Southerner wrote: Oh no it's not .... he was a Souths player/colt to begin with before Richmond and then the unfortunate Jail term .... you guys recruited him when he was released ... no crap

Your wrong Southerner, SDFC recuited Kraks in 2008 and played half the season before his court trial.
My information says that South were aware that he may go to prison and did not chase him hard enough.
Swans took the gamble and even when he was in prison doing his time, he was still registrated as a swans player.
The club maintained close contact with Kraks and checked on his welfare.

The door was well and truly open for Andy to play at South upon returning from the Vicco league and then the term .... you could ask Krakka himself

I have to accept your word re: contact inside & welfare checks and good on the club for that absolutely he's a good kid.

Jimmy Two Times wrote:

Southerner wrote: Oh no it's not .... he was a Souths player/colt to begin with before Richmond and then the unfortunate Jail term .... you guys recruited him when he was released ... no crap

Your wrong Southerner, SDFC recuited Kraks in 2008 and played half the season before his court trial.
My information says that South were aware that he may go to prison and did not chase him hard enough.
Swans took the gamble and even when he was in prison doing his time, he was still registrated as a swans player.
The club maintained close contact with Kraks and checked on his welfare.

Correct JTT Kraks played at Swans in 2008 before his court case and then subsequent jail term!

Frank Falcon wrote: Agree with you Freezin. If he had any morals that is what he would do. Pay WP back.
Going back in time WP picked one of the Rose brothers for Swannies. Cant remember if it was Bob or John. Never played a game. However paid WP back form his own pocket. Guess times were different then.
Far as all the other comments go. Pure sour grapes by all you Swannies.
Get over it. he wasn't a swans player to start with. Players move around. It was ok when Hilderbrant came across from Suby. I was pissed of when Josh Smith went to EP or Seaby to Claremont. Even thought Hutchy was an EP product its going to kill me to see him in a EP jumper or Bradley in a Peel jumper (he is WP through and through). Troy Wilson and Paul Symmons were premiership players for WP.Made no difference. Chased the dollars and transferred to EP. Its a fact of life. Lets move on.

Difference being of course all of those above's clearances were paid up unlike WP for Kraks as it stands at the minute!
I was one on here (along with swandog & freeze) who warned you WP lot that picking up Kraks was a massive risk as his heart wouldnt be in it after reaching the pinnacle, coming off a knee etc and was shouted down as he was apparently far too professional etc for that to happen and now 2 months later ....bingo!!!
At the end of the day it was Raponi who was trumpeting to all and sundry about snaring Kraks from under Swans nose before it backfired now all we just want is our rightful transfer payment as it is not Swans fault Kraks has done a Harold Holt and is now only remembered by the WP folk as the highest paid one training session player in club history!

Beasley Hutton wrote:

Frank Falcon wrote: Agree with you Freezin. If he had any morals that is what he would do. Pay WP back.
Going back in time WP picked one of the Rose brothers for Swannies. Cant remember if it was Bob or John. Never played a game. However paid WP back form his own pocket. Guess times were different then.
Far as all the other comments go. Pure sour grapes by all you Swannies.
Get over it. he wasn't a swans player to start with. Players move around. It was ok when Hilderbrant came across from Suby. I was pissed of when Josh Smith went to EP or Seaby to Claremont. Even thought Hutchy was an EP product its going to kill me to see him in a EP jumper or Bradley in a Peel jumper (he is WP through and through). Troy Wilson and Paul Symmons were premiership players for WP.Made no difference. Chased the dollars and transferred to EP. Its a fact of life. Lets move on.

Difference being of course all of those above's clearances were paid up unlike WP for Kraks as it stands at the minute!
I was one on here (along with swandog & freeze) who warned you WP lot that picking up Kraks was a massive risk as his heart wouldnt be in it after reaching the pinnacle, coming off a knee etc and was shouted down as he was apparently far too professional etc for that to happen and now 2 months later ....bingo!!!
At the end of the day it was Raponi who was trumpeting to all and sundry about snaring Kraks from under Swans nose before it backfired now all we just want is our rightful transfer payment as it is not Swans fault Kraks has done a Harold Holt and is now only remembered by the WP folk as the highest paid one training session player in club history!

Well I must admit my timeline was out by what 6 months and for that I stand corrected
But originally AK was a SF colt .... snared by Richmond via draft ..... snared by SDFC upon delist/return ... snared by Collingwood via draft .... snared by WPFC upon delist/return .... and that folks , as they say , is the big red pill !

BH All clubs take risks with players and recruits. Sometimes they work sometimes they dont. You guys would have been very happy if he ended up back at Swannies.

WP is in the same boat as Swannies. Krakouer has signed a business agreement. He didn't deliver. He should fork out the money. Problem solved.

Beasley Hutton wrote:

Jimmy Two Times wrote:

Southerner wrote: Oh no it's not .... he was a Souths player/colt to begin with before Richmond and then the unfortunate Jail term .... you guys recruited him when he was released ... no crap

Your wrong Southerner, SDFC recuited Kraks in 2008 and played half the season before his court trial.
My information says that South were aware that he may go to prison and did not chase him hard enough.
Swans took the gamble and even when he was in prison doing his time, he was still registrated as a swans player.
The club maintained close contact with Kraks and checked on his welfare.

Correct JTT Kraks played at Swans in 2008 before his court case and then subsequent jail term!

Amazing how these South blokes like clutching at straws, like when they tried to claim Corey Gault!

probably just as amazed as those ES clubs when they read SDFC claiming fellas like Geappen, Twomey, Roach, Robinson etc as their own.....

so Swandog if you were born in Australia, raised and spent your formative years in Australia, yet moved to the UK for your money making years, paid UK taxes, contibuted to your local community in the UK etc, would you 'claim' yourself to be a POM or an Aussie?......

Swandog wrote:

Beasley Hutton wrote:

Jimmy Two Times wrote:

Southerner wrote: Oh no it's not .... he was a Souths player/colt to begin with before Richmond and then the unfortunate Jail term .... you guys recruited him when he was released ... no crap

Your wrong Southerner, SDFC recuited Kraks in 2008 and played half the season before his court trial.
My information says that South were aware that he may go to prison and did not chase him hard enough.
Swans took the gamble and even when he was in prison doing his time, he was still registrated as a swans player.
The club maintained close contact with Kraks and checked on his welfare.

Correct JTT Kraks played at Swans in 2008 before his court case and then subsequent jail term!

Amazing how these South blokes like clutching at straws, like when they tried to claim Corey Gault!

clutching at straws??? what, r u saying that he did NOT get his start in footy @ Souths...???