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a very articulate, informed and well reasoned post there SD...cheers

BC wrote: a very articulate, informed and well reasoned post there SD...cheers

No probs

All makes sense now, I have been saying it all along..

The C3 clubs (cheats 3) sit at the bottom of the free kicks table because they are arrogant, undisciplined cheats!

The G6 clubs (Good blokes) make up the top 6 because they play a fair and disciplined brand of football..

Nuf said!

Swandog wrote:

BC wrote: 42...you seriously don't believe the umps consciously award kicks to other teams in their front half and deliberately don't do the same for Swans? the stats tell us that your mob receive one free kick more than you give away on a weekly basis. Subi receives 5 less a week so I'm not sure what you're whinging about. you can single out a particular game all you like against Claremont and the telling stat there is 68 inside 50s to 30 so its no surprise you didn't get any kicks in your front half but the fact remains you bogans are in positive territory in terms of free kicks over the season thus far.

I`m very comfortable with $ubiaco getting a shit run from the maggots as $ubi are rorting everything else and deserve nothing, the last thing we need is $ubi getting any help from the slime in green either!

We give away a lot of free kicks because we are very hard at the ball and player, I wouldn't want it any other way. We don't win a lot of free kicks because we don't duck into tackles and stage for frees like the teams at the top of the list.

BC wrote: 42...you seriously don't believe the umps consciously award kicks to other teams in their front half and deliberately don't do the same for Swans? the stats tell us that your mob receive one free kick more than you give away on a weekly basis. Subi receives 5 less a week so I'm not sure what you're whinging about. you can single out a particular game all you like against Claremont and the telling stat there is 68 inside 50s to 30 so its no surprise you didn't get any kicks in your front half but the fact remains you bogans are in positive territory in terms of free kicks over the season thus far.

BC apart from the misuse of less rather than fewer I am not sure how more clearly I can put it than my previous attempts but here goes. Apart from the first 15 minutes of the first quarter virtually the rest of the match was played with very little if any momentum change. Claremont dominated from about 15 minutes into the first quarter until the end of the match. What is inexplicable, save for one reason, is the fact that Claremont received 5 and 9 free kicks in the first half and 3 and 1 free kicks in the second half. Swans received 2, 2 , 2 and 5 free kicks in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th quarters respectively. Did we play any differently that the preceding 2 and a half quarters? Unquestionably no we did not. Did Claremont play substantially differently in the last quarter compared to the preceding 2 and a half quarters? Unquestionably, no they did not.

If you are going to use the inside 50s argument, then I will use it as the premise for the following. 68 inside 50s for 12 free kicks is a ratio of 5.67 to 1. On that basis, Swans' 30 inside 50s should have resulted in about 5 free kicks in the forward line. How many did we get? One in the 30th minute of the last quarter. QED.

so what are you saying exactly 42? that the umps intentionally didn't pay SD kicks in their forward line when they should've? are you saying they're baised against your mob? you've made a lot of sweeping statements and quoted stats to support what exactly? come on...out with it. what are you implying?..and please be mindful of your veiled legal threats to outerseagull on other matters which in your opinion could be viewed as libellous.

Swan 42 we did not receive 1 free kick inside our forward 50 for the entire match as the one that you are incorrectly referring to in the last minute to Tony was in actual fact outside the 50m arc!

Sounds like SD were hardly in their own 50 tho BH for any free kicks to be won......how many frees were won by Cl in their inside 50 again....because Cl do like to play that side ways keepy off game between the zones apparently......or do we have only a SD fan free kick where and when tally to base this discussion on? Pretty sure Cl fans would have a different take on this.....if we could find any in the first place.....where is the ground announcer when you need him.....better view from that lofty perch of free kicks than from ground level I reckon......

42 how many of these Cl free kicks inside 50 were due to SD stuff ups and ump stuff ups? Do you have a wagon wheel or something to show folk the break down......might win more folk over to SD line of thinking.....

Freezin wrote: Sounds like SD were hardly in their own 50 tho BH for any free kicks to be won......how many frees were won by Cl in their inside 50 again....because Cl do like to play that side ways keepy off game between the zones apparently......or do we have only a SD fan free kick where and when tally to base this discussion on? Pretty sure Cl fans would have a different take on this.....if we could find any in the first place.....where is the ground announcer when you need him.....better view from that lofty perch of free kicks than from ground level I reckon......

42 how many of these Cl free kicks inside 50 were due to SD stuff ups and ump stuff ups? Do you have a wagon wheel or something to show folk the break down......might win more folk over to SD line of thinking.....

Freezin I have more than clearly articulated the distribution of free kicks FOR BOTH Swans and Claremont quarter by quarter and broken down further into forward line, centre line and back line. In all my postings on this topic have I referred to unwarranted free kicks to Claremont? Quite to the contrary, I believe I have articulated the view that Claremont should have received a number of extra free kicks in the last quarter.

Yep just saw that 42.....are things that bad for SD fans these days that you guys are so focused on watching who what where and when free kicks are being won.....when do you get time to even watch and enjoy the game?....can be time consuming having to write all these specific stats.....a mate of mine used to do a similar thing looking at disposal efficiency etc and he said he never knew what else was going on half the time.....just focused on that part of the game and nothing else....too busy scribbling taking in data specifics for the coach to use at each break