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MarkOlsen wrote: of course the AFL clubs need the WAFL, VFL and SANFL.
unless they form their own 18's comp where else are players going to come from ?
state leagues provide pathways to AFL for blokes 18 and above, take that away and all you have is kids playing and blokes going to bush leagues or local comps.
every year blokes get drafted out of state league comps, its not all about the kids..
to think otherwise is very shortsighted and that is with out even mentioning the community benefits WAFL clubs provide in linking a local area with a local side as not everyone can afford to go and watch AFL footy.
EP and Peel might not care about their community but other WAFL clubs do.

without WAFL/VFL/SANFL clubs Priddis, Spurr, Barlow Mzungu, Sinclair, Ballantyne and many others wouldnt be playing AFL as none of those guys got drafted as kids so your comment is way off the mark.

MO I don't know abt Peel but I suspect they are the same I know at the junior, development and 18/19 level EP does care about its community both in the Metro and the Country. I think that the ERT issue was never about the development process, if it had been then it would not have happened, an alternative would have been found!

Peel have historically had a strong colts team, never the strongest but there abouts. So to suggest the clubs at some level don't care is off the mark,

Admittedly care was not on the agenda at the decision making level but please don't suggest that those involved in the EP Junior and development process don't care about our Community!

I was to a point playing devils advocate to put the point across that whilst the state league competitions have a role as it stands. With more and more professionalism and revenue sources in the AFL they will want more control not less. It is anyone's guess really what direction anything could take but I would put my money on less state league involvement not more.

i thought you said i was delusional and when i provided info from the AFL all you can say is you were playing devils advocate ?
good work..

Was trying to get the point across to you that the AFL could survive and flourish without the WAFL. By there thinking they allow these leagues such as the WAFL to keep going because it's convenient at the moment. They could cut the funding and make other arrangements whenever they feel like it. I believe you may be suffering the same delusions of grandeur the G7 brought to the table when the AFL clubs wanted to do a deal.

The Afl has identified that it needs comps under the Afl at both a juniors and senior level to be strong to make the afl stronger, if you can't work out that means the wafl/sanfl/vfl then good luck to you.
You are never wrong that's for sure, you are not Fonzie are you ?

Cardy wrote: You are spot on Mark. The ultimate aim of the AFL organisation is to totally control all facets of Australian Rules In all states and worldwide. The Australian football Commission runs the AFL E.G

In its role as national and international governing body, the AFL Commission also controls and delegates development funding for Australian state and international bodies and leagues. As most of this funding is sourced the revenue and activities associated with the AFL competition, much of the funding is directed to the competition's developing markets. Semi-professional state competitions are generally self-sufficient and receive a much lower percentage of the AFL's funding.

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To read full article and office bearers goto

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_Commission#cite_note-5

Bottom line the AFL Commission has only their own interests and GREED at heart with no concern for State Leagues. I would venture to say their ultimate aim is to control All State leagues. We already have the QAFL and the NTAFL and NEAFL as these would of been small pigeons compared to the WAFL and SANFL but believe me they are moving in using stealth.
2 WAFL clubs are under the control of 2 AFL clubs where they employ FULL TIME coaches (who they appoint) paid for by the AFL clubs and support staff etc etc are included so they can use these 2 clubs to play their players and in reality the other WAFL clubs are just giving them a training run and an assist in the AFL clubs selection criteria.
That is all the AFL clubs are interested in and their HEARTS are not with the WAFL Competition but their own selfish agenda's.

I agree with you Mark on your points. Larry you are right as I said in my previous post the AFL/WAFL have an agenda and when they met with the G7 they didnt want to hear about it. They just wanted to infuse the AFL upon our comp by force and the power of their position. A bottomless pit of money whereas the WAFL is stretched.

Now who was making the terms? The WAFC aka AFL or the poor kids on the block the WAFL? That question is easily answered. So dont say the AFL CLUBS WANTED TO DO A DEAL! They were telling us of the deal they wanted.
I cant see a problem with the AFL players playing with a host club as they have for the last 10 years - SINCE THE LAST ALIGNMENT DEAL WAS DROPPED

MarkOlsen wrote: The Afl has identified that it needs comps under the Afl at both a juniors and senior level to be strong to make the afl stronger, if you can't work out that means the wafl/sanfl/vfl then good luck to you.
You are never wrong that's for sure, you are not Fonzie are you ?

How much funding does the AFL provide to the WAFL to help strengthen the league and the codes base in WA?

Not sure Barney but your salary cap source might have the info ?

Of course they need comps under the AFL, my point is if the state leagues don't do what they are told then they will make other arrangements. The VFL is virtually a reserves comp anyway. I liken the AFL to a Russian dictator they know they are the boss they do what they like. And the answer to how much funding the AFL provides to WA football is directly and indirectly most of it.

Larry: I agree with you about the AFL running what amounts to a Stalinist system: salary caps, drafts, subsidies to pet clubs and projects, the high handed way they treat other competitions, and so on. There is one aspect of this Stalinist relationship which favours the WAFL -- the rule which makes all players come through state leagues to play in the AFL. This is why the two VFL clubs in Perth need the WAFL, because the rules say so; they also need the WAFL, because, they don't want to spend the money to join a Reserves completion based in Melbourne. You have confidence in the ability of AFL clubs to identify talent which I just do not share. It is not hard to turn up to a bloody training camp which the Stalinists arrange for you once or twice a year to assess kids in how high they can jump rather than their football ability. The AFL clubs will do what is easiest and what makes them the most money -- and in this sense, the WAFL suits them. Remember, the AFL clubs wanted there own teams in the league; they did not get it for two reasons: 1) opposition from the clubs 2) they chose to avoid a full-scale confrontation with the clubs, and adopted the alignment instead. IN short, they actually compromised with the clubs because it was in their interests to do so.