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Bazza wrote:

Senior Seagull wrote:

Bazza wrote:

Demons Forever wrote: TRSM in order to be "creative" with player payments you need to have the resources in the first place.
Subi have found a way because they have the resources not available to other Clubs.
It will take years for their resources to diminish.

They have future fund worth millions, they will be around for years cashed up. Even though their membership base has fallen in recent years.

There are ways around the salary cap, White Goods, Leased Cars, Paid off Credit Cards,Bar Tabs all sorts of methods.

Dont forget Cicco's brown paper bag caper.

Would of contained some fruit and veg unlike subis that had wads of cash.

I always wondered what the freo mafia used as a term for moolah

Bazza wrote:

Stand the Test wrote: Still waiting for an example of sanfl going it alone on anything significant in say last 30 years.

So the sanfl didn’t want to join the afl but were ‘forced’ to do so by one of its clubs??? Solid organisation doing its own thing!

And yes I realised the no port thing this year (their 150th) was ‘out of sanfl’s control’, that is kind of my point.

Purchased Football Park - WAFL never bought anything
Refused the VFL to join the expanded Comp in 1987 and pay the rip off fee - WAFL Joined and paid huge money and went bust 2 years later.
SANFL Crows join and at a much reduced licence fee years later.
SANFL Clubs allowed to have pokies ensuring financial streams
SANFL Crowds remain double that of WAFL on average.
SANFL do deal with SACA shared ownership of Adelaide Oval, sell Football Park for huge profit as land, Play SANFL GF At Adelaide Oval free of charge - WAFC do deal with Optus and now have to pay $100K plus to use it for WAFL GF , no GF at Optus this year.
SANFL sells Crows licence back to AFL for millions, decouples and establishes future fund. WAFL allows WCE to amass 50 Million in Bank - no control over Eagles funds and is currently the subject of parliamentary inquiry.

I could go on....

That's what happens when you let a bunch of freeloaders looking for a free lunch and a lanyard that says I'm a Very Important Person who gets to roam around Football Headquarters whenever and wherever they like run football.

They are not true WAFL believers. They're in it for the free lunch and the lanyard.

royallucky wrote:

Grump wrote: There are legitimate ways to reduce a players payments, get them a good job!

For some reason we used have on our previous lists a high proportion of car salesmen!!!!!

gtrxuone wrote:

Bazza wrote:

Stand the Test wrote: Still waiting for an example of sanfl going it alone on anything significant in say last 30 years.

So the sanfl didn’t want to join the afl but were ‘forced’ to do so by one of its clubs??? Solid organisation doing its own thing!

And yes I realised the no port thing this year (their 150th) was ‘out of sanfl’s control’, that is kind of my point.

Purchased Football Park - WAFL never bought anything
Refused the VFL to join the expanded Comp in 1987 and pay the rip off fee - WAFL Joined and paid huge money and went bust 2 years later.
SANFL Crows join and at a much reduced licence fee years later.
SANFL Clubs allowed to have pokies ensuring financial streams
SANFL Crowds remain double that of WAFL on average.
SANFL do deal with SACA shared ownership of Adelaide Oval, sell Football Park for huge profit as land, Play SANFL GF At Adelaide Oval free of charge - WAFC do deal with Optus and now have to pay $100K plus to use it for WAFL GF , no GF at Optus this year.
SANFL sells Crows licence back to AFL for millions, decouples and establishes future fund. WAFL allows WCE to amass 50 Million in Bank - no control over Eagles funds and is currently the subject of parliamentary inquiry.

I could go on....

Good reply Bazza.I think the 35 million the AFL paid for the Crows licence. The SANFL put in to the Adelaide Oval redevelopment.. That must be why they get such a good deal at AO.Or there part owners of AO.
Did the Crows pay 2 million to join the AFL.$500,000 by 4 years.West Coast and Brisbane played double up front.

WAFL via Indian Pacific and Brisbane Bears paid a mint for the Licence, they got ripped off by the VFL, within 2 years both Indian Pacfic (WAFL) and the Bears were bankrupt.

The land at Football Park will earn the SANFL $71 Mill.

They sold the crows and power back to the AFL for a total deal of $61 Mill, 18 Mill for the licences plus 40 odd in agreed extra funding as part of the deal.

Cashed up big time.

royallucky wrote:

Grump wrote: There are legitimate ways to reduce a players payments, get them a good job!

For some reason we used have on our previous lists a high proportion of car salesmen!!!!!

Houghton Ford and Southside Mitsibushi all run by AHG back then

Bazza wrote:

gtrxuone wrote:

Bazza wrote:

Stand the Test wrote: Still waiting for an example of sanfl going it alone on anything significant in say last 30 years.

So the sanfl didn’t want to join the afl but were ‘forced’ to do so by one of its clubs??? Solid organisation doing its own thing!


And yes I realised the no port thing this year (their 150th) was ‘out of sanfl’s control’, that is kind of my point.

Purchased Football Park - WAFL never bought anything
Refused the VFL to join the expanded Comp in 1987 and pay the rip off fee - WAFL Joined and paid huge money and went bust 2 years later.
SANFL Crows join and at a much reduced licence fee years later.
SANFL Clubs allowed to have pokies ensuring financial streams
SANFL Crowds remain double that of WAFL on average.
SANFL do deal with SACA shared ownership of Adelaide Oval, sell Football Park for huge profit as land, Play SANFL GF At Adelaide Oval free of charge - WAFC do deal with Optus and now have to pay $100K plus to use it for WAFL GF , no GF at Optus this year.
SANFL sells Crows licence back to AFL for millions, decouples and establishes future fund. WAFL allows WCE to amass 50 Million in Bank - no control over Eagles funds and is currently the subject of parliamentary inquiry.

I could go on....

Good reply Bazza.I think the 35 million the AFL paid for the Crows licence. The SANFL put in to the Adelaide Oval redevelopment.. That must be why they get such a good deal at AO.Or there part owners of AO.
Did the Crows pay 2 million to join the AFL.$500,000 by 4 years.West Coast and Brisbane played double up front.

WAFL via Indian Pacific and Brisbane Bears paid a mint for the Licence, they got ripped off by the VFL, within 2 years both Indian Pacfic (WAFL) and the Bears were bankrupt.

The land at Football Park will earn the SANFL $71 Mill.

They sold the crows and power back to the AFL for a total deal of $61 Mill, 18 Mill for the licences plus 40 odd in agreed extra funding as part of the deal.

Cashed up big time.

Former Swans Directors put forward a similar plan to the WAFL presidents to to take to the WAFC together with selling Subi Oval lease, (which by the way is what the annual Grant is for- giving up Subi) and slashing the WAFC.
We too could have been cashed up except the plan was seen as too radical for the backward thinkers at the WAFL clubs.

Easy Perth wanted to join the VFL before the West Coast Eagles but the WAFL said no, fearing that East Perth would become a dominant force.

therealswansman wrote:

Bazza wrote:

gtrxuone wrote:

Bazza wrote:

Stand the Test wrote: Still waiting for an example of sanfl going it alone on anything significant in say last 30 years.

So the sanfl didn’t want to join the afl but were ‘forced’ to do so by one of its clubs??? Solid organisation doing its own thing!


And yes I realised the no port thing this year (their 150th) was ‘out of sanfl’s control’, that is kind of my point.

Purchased Football Park - WAFL never bought anything
Refused the VFL to join the expanded Comp in 1987 and pay the rip off fee - WAFL Joined and paid huge money and went bust 2 years later.
SANFL Crows join and at a much reduced licence fee years later.
SANFL Clubs allowed to have pokies ensuring financial streams
SANFL Crowds remain double that of WAFL on average.
SANFL do deal with SACA shared ownership of Adelaide Oval, sell Football Park for huge profit as land, Play SANFL GF At Adelaide Oval free of charge - WAFC do deal with Optus and now have to pay $100K plus to use it for WAFL GF , no GF at Optus this year.
SANFL sells Crows licence back to AFL for millions, decouples and establishes future fund. WAFL allows WCE to amass 50 Million in Bank - no control over Eagles funds and is currently the subject of parliamentary inquiry.

I could go on....

Good reply Bazza.I think the 35 million the AFL paid for the Crows licence. The SANFL put in to the Adelaide Oval redevelopment.. That must be why they get such a good deal at AO.Or there part owners of AO.
Did the Crows pay 2 million to join the AFL.$500,000 by 4 years.West Coast and Brisbane played double up front.

WAFL via Indian Pacific and Brisbane Bears paid a mint for the Licence, they got ripped off by the VFL, within 2 years both Indian Pacfic (WAFL) and the Bears were bankrupt.

The land at Football Park will earn the SANFL $71 Mill.

They sold the crows and power back to the AFL for a total deal of $61 Mill, 18 Mill for the licences plus 40 odd in agreed extra funding as part of the deal.

Cashed up big time.

Former Swans Directors put forward a similar plan to the WAFL presidents to to take to the WAFC together with selling Subi Oval lease, (which by the way is what the annual Grant is for- giving up Subi) and slashing the WAFC.
We too could have been cashed up except the plan was seen as too radical for the backward thinkers at the WAFL clubs.

I don;'t think the lease at Subi would of been worth $71 Million.

Durtle wrote: Easy Perth wanted to join the VFL before the West Coast Eagles but the WAFL said no, fearing that East Perth would become a dominant force.

yep remember that.

SF and EF wanted to form the Fremantle Side but the WAFC quashed that as well.

Bazza wrote:

therealswansman wrote:

Bazza wrote:

gtrxuone wrote:

Bazza wrote:

Stand the Test wrote: Still waiting for an example of sanfl going it alone on anything significant in say last 30 years.

So the sanfl didn’t want to join the afl but were ‘forced’ to do so by one of its clubs??? Solid organisation doing its own thing!


And yes I realised the no port thing this year (their 150th) was ‘out of sanfl’s control’, that is kind of my point.

Purchased Football Park - WAFL never bought anything
Refused the VFL to join the expanded Comp in 1987 and pay the rip off fee - WAFL Joined and paid huge money and went bust 2 years later.
SANFL Crows join and at a much reduced licence fee years later.
SANFL Clubs allowed to have pokies ensuring financial streams
SANFL Crowds remain double that of WAFL on average.
SANFL do deal with SACA shared ownership of Adelaide Oval, sell Football Park for huge profit as land, Play SANFL GF At Adelaide Oval free of charge - WAFC do deal with Optus and now have to pay $100K plus to use it for WAFL GF , no GF at Optus this year.
SANFL sells Crows licence back to AFL for millions, decouples and establishes future fund. WAFL allows WCE to amass 50 Million in Bank - no control over Eagles funds and is currently the subject of parliamentary inquiry.

I could go on....

Good reply Bazza.I think the 35 million the AFL paid for the Crows licence. The SANFL put in to the Adelaide Oval redevelopment.. That must be why they get such a good deal at AO.Or there part owners of AO.
Did the Crows pay 2 million to join the AFL.$500,000 by 4 years.West Coast and Brisbane played double up front.

WAFL via Indian Pacific and Brisbane Bears paid a mint for the Licence, they got ripped off by the VFL, within 2 years both Indian Pacfic (WAFL) and the Bears were bankrupt.

The land at Football Park will earn the SANFL $71 Mill.

They sold the crows and power back to the AFL for a total deal of $61 Mill, 18 Mill for the licences plus 40 odd in agreed extra funding as part of the deal.

Cashed up big time.

Former Swans Directors put forward a similar plan to the WAFL presidents to to take to the WAFC together with selling Subi Oval lease, (which by the way is what the annual Grant is for- giving up Subi) and slashing the WAFC.
We too could have been cashed up except the plan was seen as too radical for the backward thinkers at the WAFL clubs.

I don;'t think the lease at Subi would of been worth $71 Million.

It was worth far more than that. Still had 70 years to run.