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Bushfires like we've never seen before? 4 years 3 months ago #179658

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We are lucky over here and I've never been close to a big bush fire so I can only go on what we see on the telly. I know we've had massive bushfires in Australia before, Ash Wednesday springs to mind and the devastating fires in our own south west and outer reaches of the northern suburbs and hills regions.

But I don't recall seeing the Australian Navy having to get involved and coastal communities on fire. Is this the worst Australia has ever seen in terms of bushfires?

The Queensland floods about 5 or 6 years ago I think was also a massive natural disaster.
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Bushfires like we've never seen before? 4 years 3 months ago #179683

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Trouble is either people forget or they weren't born yet.
Also depends how you define a natural disaster.

Dwellingup
Cyclone Alby when it entered the SW.
Esperance
East Kimberly fires of 1978. Try controlling a 50km front.
Denbarker fires of 1985.
1962 and 1969 fires in Victoria.
Ash Wednesday in 1983 and Black Saturday, 2009.
And the list goes on.

Take a drive thru Prevelly and see how many houses have dune bush growing up against their
walls. Not the fences but the actual house walls! They learnt nothing after the fires.
How many houses in the Perth hills have a fire fighting pump connected to a rainwater tank?

Too many tree change hippies wont mitigate for fuel lode and don't have contingencies for fire but expect every one else to pay the price for their lifestyle.

quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/20...ustralia-is-burning/
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Bushfires like we've never seen before? 4 years 3 months ago #179689

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Australia is a country of bushfires and drought. There just happened to be a large east coast drought. And a dozen bushfires starting at the same time.Fueled by a heatwave we had in mid December.
Lake Eyre was once the largest fresh water lake in the world.Bushfires long before 1788 destroyed the natural habitat and turned the lake salty.
Climate change is really tricky and full of politics.It does appear it's getting hotter+with far less rain.Is the planet to overpopulated now do we remove to much natural habitat.
Planet Earth is changing. Scientists believe there's something wrong with the Earth's magnetic field.The north pole field is moving south to northern Russia.The sun's emitting enormous solar flares more than in the past.Look at all your weather forecasts on hot and cooler days the Uv ratings are off the chart.
Real estate booms in the 3 big Australian city's in the last decade. Mel-Syd-Bris .More people are deciding to live outside those big City's.Making the impact of the bushfires worse.
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Bushfires like we've never seen before? 4 years 3 months ago #179694

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it is tragic -- but there is nowt new in it. The frist story on the aBC last night shoul have been the closing of the road to the east, since it is of definite local interest. I would be going to japan and india if i was Morrison, it is called being the PM of the country.

Here is a link to the Ash Wednesday Fires

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday_bushfires

i am afraid too many greenies have got it into their heads that you can change the climate of a country, a continent or the world. If only they would worry about a real crisis, such as war in te ME or the fcat that the Russians and Americans still point nuclear rockets at each other.
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Bushfires like we've never seen before? 4 years 3 months ago #179695

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ArkRoyal wrote: it is tragic -- but there is nowt new in it. The frist story on the aBC last night shoul have been the closing of the road to the east, since it is of definite local interest. I would be going to japan and india if i was Morrison, it is called being the PM of the country.

Here is a link to the Ash Wednesday Fires

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday_bushfires

i am afraid too many greenies have got it into their heads that you can change the climate of a country, a continent or the world. If only they would worry about a real crisis, such as war in te ME or the fcat that the Russians and Americans still point nuclear rockets at each other.

Ark what caused our mid December heat wave.That travelled East and was a big contributor to these bushfires. Was an unusual weather pattern with no SW breeze for 10 days.The wind blew from the North East blowing over the desert and hot red dust+rocks from the NW.Strange weather pattern but not really related to a climate event imo.
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Bushfires like we've never seen before? 4 years 3 months ago #179696

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A big reason for the December heat wave and it's severity is that the tropical monsoons were 6-8 weeks later than normal hence the heat we would normally expect in February and early march was much earlier. Was up in Bali in November and they would normally see the start of the wet big time but that didn't happen until mid late December. As for the fires over east, they always appear much more intense than we see here due to the lack of properly planned controlled burns due to pressure from the tree huggers who fear these controlled burns with low intensity fires will destroy the fauna and flora, what they ignore is that these low intensity fires are what the bush needs to regenerate. The high intensity fires like what is happening over east destroy everything, trees are burned beyond regeneration and animals cant out run these intense fires, animals, bugs, seeds and roots buried/burrowed in the ground are destroyed to a depth of approx 500mm instead of just below the surface in controlled low intensity burns, but the Greens labour coalition wont have a bar of the science that supports this, they only support the science that supports their own totally unrealistic ends.
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Bushfires like we've never seen before? 4 years 3 months ago #179699

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Lovely rhetoric, SS - but essentially bullshit.

For those interested in the facts, once again:

www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-20/hazard-re...s-bushfires/11817336

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Bushfires like we've never seen before? 4 years 3 months ago #179704

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jackspratt wrote: Lovely rhetoric, SS - but essentially bullshit.

For those interested in the facts, once again:

www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-20/hazard-re...s-bushfires/11817336


Typical of your bullshit Jack... Not SS's ..get a life before you become a vegan.

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Bushfires like we've never seen before? 4 years 3 months ago #179705

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jackspratt wrote: Lovely rhetoric, SS - but essentially bullshit.

For those interested in the facts, once again:

www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-20/hazard-re...s-bushfires/11817336


Seems as though the aboriginals doing their own method of back burning prior to 1788 needed js here to advise them. Honestly jack, do spend your whole day thinking up ways to ridicule people’s opinions? Methinks the old unlikeable jack Spratt has returned from his days at the old forum we had.
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Bushfires like we've never seen before? 4 years 3 months ago #179706

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58 I linked to that article, on here, over 2 weeks ago.

The facts are pretty clear.

I'd venture a guess that SS, or you for that matter, has yet to read it. :unsure:

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