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swan42 wrote: Given what you have done thus far this season I would have thought that a margin under 15 goals would be a very disappointing result for Subiaco.

well 42...thank god for that last goal coz if we only won by 89 points I would have been very disappointed.

Sounds like Subi showed a bit more passion for the jumper than SD did....surprising that considering SD beat a Peel side last week, who had a similar advantage fitness/player depth wise to Subi....yet SD beat Peel through sheer pride of wearing the B&W jumper....but not yesterday?....as much as the WAFC are being blamed for killing the comp....it certainly not helping when teams kick only one goal in 3 quarters of footy....utter disgraceful way to treat ones fans.....and the comp itself.....no wonder why folk are losing heart....and crowds are dwindling....

BC wrote:

swan42 wrote: Given what you have done thus far this season I would have thought that a margin under 15 goals would be a very disappointing result for Subiaco.

well 42...thank god for that last goal coz if we only won by 89 points I would have been very disappointed.

Crap BC you said you would be happy with a one point win.

Freezin wrote: Sounds like Subi showed a bit more passion for the jumper than SD did....surprising that considering SD beat a Peel side last week, who had a similar advantage fitness/player depth wise to Subi....yet SD beat Peel through sheer pride of wearing the B&W jumper....but not yesterday?....as much as the WAFC are being blamed for killing the comp....it certainly not helping when teams kick only one goal in 3 quarters of footy....utter disgraceful way to treat ones fans.....and the comp itself.....no wonder why folk are losing heart....and crowds are dwindling....

Freezin I know you are doing what seems to be the only thing you can do and that is to stir. But this time I am not going to let you get away with it. You are NOT in WA so you don't go to many WAFL matches. Rest assured there is a groundswell of complete disillusion with the imbalance in the WAFL at the moment.

Add to this is the decision to shunt the ressies to God knows when next year. And I believe the decision will be made to play all the colts' games at the one venue will be the last straws and the few remaining WAFL stalwarts will simply walk away.

Freezin if that happens I will pose the same question as I have posed to Subiaco supporters what will you do when the WAFL no longer exists?

42 you pass comment on the fact Subi fans should ABSOLUTELY have no complaints about the umpiring yesterday...yet SD got nearly more than twice the number of frees....if the numbers had been of reversed you would of mentioned the discrepancy......you pass comment on the fact that Subi are destroying the comp by having a plethora of riches that other WAFL clubs don't have....yet you say little about SD themselves not helping the destruction of the comp by scoring only ONE goal in 3/4 quarters of footy....hardly the sort of display to bring in the punters hey mate?

I merely state last week I read SD apparently beat a similar level side to Subi in Peel on pure passion for the SD jumper....yet you don't mention the passionless display by SD yesterday, it was down to inequality of WAFL resources? ......true Peel and Subi have monetary/facility/playing superiority over the rest of the WAFL(bar EP)....but I truly get confused when passion is mentioned coming to the fore in victory over one, yet blame unfairness and inequality when you lose to the over.?.....you say I am stirring as usual, I think I am just highlighting the inconsistencies with your argument......as I did when the Subi boys aired their frustrations after losing to Peel in the GF last year.....

as for what I will do when the WAFL is no more?.....well TBH in my eyes the WAFL went on life support when WCE joined the VFL in 87 and then the WAFL life support was turned off when Freo joined the AFL in 95.....whatever we have now and had since 1995 is a shadow of what I define as the WAFL through my time watching the comp through the 70's and 80's......when Freo were formed in 1995 and EF won the flag in 94....I saw the writing on the wall and headed overseas for an adventure and have sporadically been back to watch the WAFL since....when I have, the quality of football is average at best compared to my previous experiences ..unlike you the WAFL appears to be your winter existence...... TBH I worry for your state of mind when the WAFL is no more than my own.....but hey life goes on.

Freezin wrote: 42 you pass comment on the fact Subi fans should ABSOLUTELY have no complaints about the umpiring yesterday...yet SD got nearly more than twice the number of frees....if the numbers had been of reversed you would of mentioned the discrepancy......you pass comment on the fact that Subi are destroying the comp by having a plethora of riches that other WAFL clubs don't have....yet you say little about SD themselves not helping the destruction of the comp by scoring only ONE goal in 3/4 quarters of footy....hardly the sort of display to bring in the punters hey mate?

I merely state last week I read SD apparently beat a similar level side to Subi in Peel on pure passion for the SD jumper....yet you don't mention the passionless display by SD yesterday, it was down to inequality of WAFL resources? ......true Peel and Subi have monetary/facility/playing superiority over the rest of the WAFL(bar EP)....but I truly get confused when passion is mentioned coming to the fore in victory over one, yet blame unfairness and inequality when you lose to the over.?.....you say I am stirring as usual, I think I am just highlighting the inconsistencies with your argument......as I did when the Subi boys aired their frustrations after losing to Peel in the GF last year.....

as for what I will do when the WAFL is no more?.....well TBH in my eyes the WAFL went on life support when WCE joined the VFL in 87 and then the WAFL life support was turned off when Freo joined the AFL in 95.....whatever we have now and had since 1995 is a shadow of what I define as the WAFL through my time watching the comp through the 70's and 80's......when Freo were formed in 1995 and EF won the flag in 94....I saw the writing on the wall and headed overseas for an adventure and have sporadically been back to watch the WAFL since....when I have, the quality of football is average at best compared to my previous experiences ..unlike you the WAFL appears to be your winter existence...... TBH I worry for your state of mind when the WAFL is no more than my own.....but hey life goes on.

Let's start with the obvious: were you at the game keeping track of the free kicks or are you relying on a source that had BOTH SWANS and PEEL receiving more free kicks for than against in a game where they played each other?

I will cite three instances where Swans were penalised a 50 metre prenalty. The first I don't know why it was awarded, the second was where a Swans's player did not return the ball directly to the player (both were within 60 meters or so of Subiaco's goal. The third instance where the ball was knocked out of a Swans's players hands (in the backline) and no 50 metre penalty was paid.

According to the site that you presumably quoted from had at half time Subiaco had 2 free kicks and Swans had 8. Supposedly one of the two free kicks was when a Swans's player was on the ground attempting to gain possession of the ball when a Subiaco ran in and initiated contacted with the Swans's player NOTE NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND) and the Subiaco player was given the free kick.

As for the ABSOLUTE CRAP of Swans destroying the competition because we scored 1 goal in 3/4 you are patently ridiculous in that suggestion. I have supported Swans from the 1960s and we have had some horrendous seasons, think 2016, but the reality is that Subiaco finished with one loss in the home and away games last year. Given by BC's own admission Subiaco is under strength at the moment it looks like they will go through the 2018 home and away season undefeated and probably by a average winning margin of at least 8 goals. And that is what is destroying the competition in conjunction with the host club alignment.

Don't kid yourself your raison d'etre on this site is to stir. I will not apologise to you or to anyone that I am strident in my criticism of those who want to destroy a competition that is well over 120 years old. Perhaps to give you a perspective I presume your dad took you to East Freo to watch East Fremantle; I personally have spoken to a Swans's life member who would like to have that opportunity to take his son to Basso to watch Swans.

Freezin wrote: 42 you pass comment on the fact Subi fans should ABSOLUTELY have no complaints about the umpiring yesterday...yet SD got nearly more than twice the number of frees....if the numbers had been of reversed you would of mentioned the discrepancy......you pass comment on the fact that Subi are destroying the comp by having a plethora of riches that other WAFL clubs don't have....yet you say little about SD themselves not helping the destruction of the comp by scoring only ONE goal in 3/4 quarters of footy....hardly the sort of display to bring in the punters hey mate?

I merely state last week I read SD apparently beat a similar level side to Subi in Peel on pure passion for the SD jumper....yet you don't mention the passionless display by SD yesterday, it was down to inequality of WAFL resources? ......true Peel and Subi have monetary/facility/playing superiority over the rest of the WAFL(bar EP)....but I truly get confused when passion is mentioned coming to the fore in victory over one, yet blame unfairness and inequality when you lose to the over.?.....you say I am stirring as usual, I think I am just highlighting the inconsistencies with your argument......as I did when the Subi boys aired their frustrations after losing to Peel in the GF last year.....

as for what I will do when the WAFL is no more?.....well TBH in my eyes the WAFL went on life support when WCE joined the VFL in 87 and then the WAFL life support was turned off when Freo joined the AFL in 95.....whatever we have now and had since 1995 is a shadow of what I define as the WAFL through my time watching the comp through the 70's and 80's......when Freo were formed in 1995 and EF won the flag in 94....I saw the writing on the wall and headed overseas for an adventure and have sporadically been back to watch the WAFL since....when I have, the quality of football is average at best compared to my previous experiences ..unlike you the WAFL appears to be your winter existence...... TBH I worry for your state of mind when the WAFL is no more than my own.....but hey life goes on.

freez....that's one of the best posts I've read on here as it shows 42 up as the hypocritical fool that he is and is so biased towards Swans that most of his posts are laughable. Subi was on the receiving end of a few strange frees and also copped a couple which were curious at best...but hey, that's footy. At days end my team won by a convincing margin so 42 can whinge and whine all he likes but his mob just weren't good enough for long enough. As I posted last night they were very good in the first quarter and played a terrific brand of footy but couldn't maintain that sort of pressure whereas Subi could. What do I put it down to? Fitness mainly plus discipline to stick to the game plan. They are very well coached, very structured and each knows where he has to go and what he has to do. If a player doesn't buy in, then he's back to the magoos. Sure the club has money in the bank but so do most clubs for example Perth with over a million in the future fund...so the question should be asked...why is Subi so successful and Perth is not in recent time? If it's not money then what is it? answer that honestly and you'll see where the differential lies.

42 u are too emotional about the WAFL and SD to have a balanced discussion with......you lack consistency in your comments, which u mistake for me as always taking the opposite view....or taking the piss.....u can't say one thing and then another without someone letting u know....Let's have a balanced discussion for a chamge

Freezin wrote: 42 u are too emotional about the WAFL and SD to have a balanced discussion with......you lack consistency in your comments, which u mistake for me as always taking the opposite view....or taking the piss.....u can't say one thing and then another without someone letting u know....Let's have a balanced discussion for a chamge

Freezin you are a joke; you consistently and constantly take a contrary view to stir.

As for BC this is the person who has complained bitterly about the ALLEGED advantage that Peel have had in the past two GFs against Subiaco BC I have supported Swan Districts from the 1960s and I am used to Swans having some very bad seasons. This isn't about Swans; it is about the future of the WAFL. What you, Freezin et al don't realise that the continuing domination of Subiaco in concert with the host club is alienating a great majority of the few remaining WAFL supporters.

were you saying the same thing when Swans won 3 in a row in the 60s? I'm pretty sure I know the answer to that.