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Tiger Tales wrote:

gtrxuone wrote: There will be recounts in Nevada,Georgia and Arizona.Nevada and Arizona still have a bit to go on there first count..
This decision was taken by the local electrol Commissioners without court action from Team Trump.Some type of voter irregularities have been found in all 3 states.

Firstly voter irregularities occur in every election and it’s a long way from systemic voter fraud at a scale which would influence the outcome of election across a state.

Each state has different rules about election recounts - some don’t allow them, others require as few as 3 constituents to lodge a request with a $50 deposit and others have automatic recounts if the margin is close. In Georgia it’s requires a margin 0.5% or less. Wisconsin less than 1%.

The same differences in state electoral rules exist with mail in ballots, when the cut off time is to accept and count them after election day. Only 21 states accept them after election day with some still accepting them until the 12th November.

Trumps going to keep making unfounded accusations for as long as he can, as his own team have admitted, not one person has put their name to an affidavit to support any allegations. All states have until 8th December to finalise any results contested in court and finish recounts.

Most recounts only see a few hundred votes withdrawn, Trump needs 200k+ Biden votes removed across 4 states.
Even if he gets 50k+ changed across the 3 closest states, he still won’t change the Presidential election result.

The other thing to note is that in the case of Penn. it was the Republicans who refused to allow them to adopt the Florida system of early counting of postals, that is count them as they arrive giving you a far quicker result as was the case in Florida, the democrats wanted this implemented in Penn as well because as we have seen with Florida it gives a far clearer result quicker, instead the GOP wanted to keep the older count the in person votes first and the postals after closing day, which is why there were 1.1 Million envelopes piled up waiting for counting, this is exactly the issue the republicans are now complaining about.

Also interesting to note is that yesterday Trump filed his first writ against the State of Penn to stop all vote declarations based on fraud. The only problem was they failed to attached a single affidavit of evidence in the submissions.

It also hasnt taken long for the Trumpers to decry the fact that the judge assigned to case was a Obama appointee, and of course he would be anti Trump, the only problem was a bit more research revealed the judge was a registered republican for about 30 years, because that's what decent Presidents do, they appoint judges across the political divide, now the hardcore nutter Trumpers are saying he is "fake" republican a democrat spy who has pretended to be a republican for 30 years.

Because that's what you do when you are going down with the Trumptanic.

Time For a Flag wrote: All well and good G,TT&BC but you are you too scared to comment on my very clever clip. Let me know if you watch it and I will watch one ore two you suggest with interest

You’re referencing Summit News? A very right wing conspiracy theorist on YouTube as your source of truth on systematic election fraud?

Come back with something with at least an ounce of credibility. Maybe an opinion from your mothers, uncles mate at the pub who heard something from a guy down the road...FFS you probably watched the Da Vinci Code and thought it was a documentary.

Tiger Tales wrote:

Time For a Flag wrote: All well and good G,TT&BC but you are you too scared to comment on my very clever clip. Let me know if you watch it and I will watch one ore two you suggest with interest

You’re referencing Summit News? A very right wing conspiracy theorist on YouTube as your source of truth on systematic election fraud?

Come back with something with at least an ounce of credibility. Maybe an opinion from your mothers, uncles mate at the pub who heard something from a guy down the road...FFS you probably watched the Da Vinci Code and thought it was a documentary.

Yep TT, Conspiracy Theorists have a special insight unique to them that most other people don't have, its a special insight granted without any actual qualification, study or expertise in a discreet area normally reserved for experts.

This special insight allows them to make proclamations of "truth" without the burden of things like evidence or credibility.

Its a special power normally obtained via you tube videos constructed by other people with a similar special insight design to self confirm.

The scary thing is that there is a massive number of nut jobs who believe this crap and its very hard to stop rubbish being circulated on social media and influencing gullible people.
Trump is now setting out to deliberately undermine the whole electoral process and therefore the democratic rights of Americans. He was signalling that he would do this long before the election if he lost it.

Want evidence of Trump nutters - check this out.

and here is another one, believe it or not this women was the US Presidents personal spiritual advisor.

mikeh wrote: The scary thing is that there is a massive number of nut jobs who believe this crap and its very hard to stop rubbish being circulated on social media and influencing gullible people.
Trump is now setting out to deliberately undermine the whole electoral process and therefore the democratic rights of Americans. He was signalling that he would do this long before the election if he lost it.

Spot on. Internet is great - but its also causing huge problems.

I am not a grassy knoll person but the latest appointments to the defence smacks of a burt lancaster movie!

Bazza wrote:

BC wrote: So we've now found out that one of the reasons His Orangeness is fighting the result is so he can raise money to pay campaign debts. Sure it's hidden in the small print of his litigation fighting fund requests to donors but if he rolls over and concedes now the Trump campaign will be saddled with millions in debts from his re-election campaign so he needs to drag it on for as long as possible to keep raising $.

Yep, he is in hock for big quids, and his company debt is up for renewal in 2022, that's 583 Million, I can see Bankruptcy No 4 coming along.

And it gets better, today he fired his Defence Secretary ( that's no. 4 ) with about 8 weeks to go, on the basis he would not support using troops to put down protests, so what excatly has Trump go planned?

I see Pompeo up there saying he is preparing for a second Trump term, fair dinkum what weak quislings these clowns are, totally scared of the Orange Buffoon sacking them with 2 months to go.

Exactly.
And upon leaving the official residence - he's in deep trouble and knows it.
Is deeply in debt with the campaign fund. And now asking all his supporters to contribute to his Make America Great Again Committee. Apparently any contributions can be divided up and portions also paid into a recount account.
And he still has not shown his tax records apparently which sounds sus to me.
Going by news reports, his company also heavily in debt to the tune of 900 million (could likely be higher) and re-election costs on top of that.
One never knows, he may be forced to sell his stake in some hotels, golf courses and real estate very soon? There could be some good property available at a good price soon for someone?
Makes me sad that a lot of ordinary people are being suckered in and supporting his 2 or 3 different funds.

Team Trump now has close to 500 Sworn Affidavits .From people who worked in the polling centres on election day and the following days.Spread over 6 different states.