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Reading this post makes me laugh.

Are we suggesting that Subiaco is the "Only" club to break the rules over the last 5 years.

You need to have a good look at your own backyard before you criticise Subiaco and no I am not a Subiaco member, I am a member of Swans.

Targeting Subiaco in the way they have is not in the spirit of the game. If they have the ability to be successful you do not punish them. Players want to play there because of the culture and the high standards they set.

Unless you can substantiate your claims with naming players and specifics, which from a liability point of you is not a good idea.

Most clubs would have skeletons in the closet, so tread carefully people.
Success brings resentment - I never hear anything about Perth who have suffered a long time out of the 5.

Clubs should be trying to emulate Subiaco's success.

MarkOlsen wrote: you seriously reckon that players are not getting paid outside the system dont you ?
you should have a chat to Subi about this and their players to see whether they would like the ATO to know everything they get, let me know how you go.

Obviously you know MO of players getting dodgy payments mate at Subi...name some names so BC can go ask Subi if true What you are saying is on the money....then he can get back to us all here at Oz Footy...who are you referring to MO?

Freezin wrote: TT which other clubs from other codes have been restricted who they can recruit or not recruit to reign in their success?..yeah agree other clubs world wide have received help to improve their performance....can't think of any sporting clubs that have had restrictions put in place to negate their performance...which clubs do you know of in other comps, others here don't?

NBA and NFL have drafts and salary caps. The Lakers would be one club restricted by the salary cap restraints but plenty of others would be too.

The NBL has a salary cap and limit on the number of imports clubs can recruit which restricts players joins these clubs. I’m sure the Wildcats success and culture would see several international players want to be part of there side if they were allowed to.

The BBL is the same

There are very few competitions globally that are a free for all...EPL possibly?

Stand the Test wrote:

Lions Den wrote: Perth have signed Kieran Delahunty from NT Thunder. Was keen to join his cousin Lachlan at Subiaco, but their new recruiting restrictions ruled that out.

This is not true. Kieran on PFC radar long before the rule changes. Find another example to get the ball rolling cos this is not it.

When does Kieran start his job flipping burgers at HJs down at MR park STT?....obviously by long term radar STT...you mean Perth had to wait till HJs was up in running before getting little Cuz to sign.....same pay less work for Kieran...no brainer there me thinks for little Cuz...

my opinion is based off the changes to the rules for the WAFL.
just trying to read between the lines and look into reasons why the changes have been made.
the fact Subi havnt put up a legal challenge to this would support my opinion.

MarkOlsen wrote: my opinion is based off the changes to the rules for the WAFL.
just trying to read between the lines and look into reasons why the changes have been made.
the fact Subi havnt put up a legal challenge to this would support my opinion.

Very quick back track if you ask me

silent but deadly wrote: Reading this post makes me laugh.

Are we suggesting that Subiaco is the "Only" club to break the rules over the last 5 years.

You need to have a good look at your own backyard before you criticise Subiaco and no I am not a Subiaco member, I am a member of Swans.

Targeting Subiaco in the way they have is not in the spirit of the game. If they have the ability to be successful you do not punish them. Players want to play there because of the culture and the high standards they set.

Unless you can substantiate your claims with naming players and specifics, which from a liability point of you is not a good idea.

Most clubs would have skeletons in the closet, so tread carefully people.
Success brings resentment - I never hear anything about Perth who have suffered a long time out of the 5.

Clubs should be trying to emulate Subiaco's success.

well said sbd. As I've said before many times, I'm actually in favour of equalisation measures as Subi's continued dominance is not good for the comp but they must apply equally to all clubs so that the cycle of success whereby all clubs enjoy being on top over time is returned to how it should be.

Naming names would substantiate your claims even more MO....let's get all our cards on the table and nail this Subi disgrace on the head once and for all....opinions are often based on here say....you say, Subi say, we all say....wish people had the balls to back up their say....pointless other wise having a say....

maybe you should ask the WAFC why they made the changes, if things are all fair why would they need to make any changes ?
I have given my opinion on why i think the changes were made, if people dont agree with my opinion that is fine but they need to put forward their own opinion why they think the changes were made.
or do people think the changes were made for no reason and that Subi winning is really down to training harder ?
be interested in everyone's thoughts on why they think the changes have been made.

what intrigues me is this: what is the ultimate aim of the commission?
Is it Subi out of the five? Is it Subi finishing last or near the bottom on a consistent basis? Depending on the answer to that question, lads, I think we will be debating this issue for years -- which is when it could end up in court.

At the end of the season what they should do is:

weaken Subi's zone in the way I have suggested in the past
insist Subi take only zoned players back from the AFL