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westaussieguy wrote:

swan42 wrote: We should not be railroaded into accepting a stand alone West Coast Eagles reserves team into the WAFL. The WAFC has no power to insist that the WAFL clubs vote for that 10th team.

This is the last chance we have to ensure that the WAFL remains with some integrity.

Let's go back to the situation where the players stay at their original club when drafted and ES players are allocated in a reverse draft. If the Eagles don't like that proposal the players don't play in the WAFL. Simple as that.

I just hope the Wafl clubs have finally woken up and refrain from getting sucked in like they did before!

WA Guy,

It was a railroading mate, no one got sucked in. The Presidents literally walked into the room and there were documents signed and sealed that had Peel and the Ferals aligned without any discussion.

TheTrain wrote:

swan42 wrote: We should not be railroaded into accepting a stand alone West Coast Eagles reserves team into the WAFL. The WAFC has no power to insist that the WAFL clubs vote for that 10th team.

This is the last chance we have to ensure that the WAFL remains with some integrity.

Let's go back to the situation where the players stay at their original club when drafted and ES players are allocated in a reverse draft. If the Eagles don't like that proposal the players don't play in the WAFL. Simple as that.[/quote

Not in a million years of Sunday’s will this be the option moving forwards. Would you have your AFL clubs developing youngsters being coached by different personnel and differing structures, week to week? Not to mention the cultural losses of not having a group of players coming through together and becoming the future for their AFL club. The damage this would do would catastrophic. Dumb idea. Pressures on now, everybodys over the moon that one allignment is gone, but have they really stopped to think about a solution? The host club allignment is the best system. Not perfect, but best. Mark my words, the WA footy public is about to realise that this is a huge mistake. Unless WCE get another host club.

TT,

That is the biggest pile of horse shit, its the current system that has only minimal merit. Yes the players get to play together etc but it creates a stale culture and (no diversity) in their football and more importantly life ! Rick Charlseworth, arguably one of the best coaches of his time pleaded with the powers to be not to proceed with the alignment model due to the above and he is 100% spot on.

A great example of this is Cam McCartney who had to go back and play with Peel recently, he tubs up after the game and goes home because its not his club, not interested in supporting frauds.
One of footballs most admired players, Brownlow and Sandover winner Matt Priddis refused to play and put the Ferals jumper on last season, is this the culture the to AFL sides are after ???

chaddy22 wrote:

swan42 wrote:

gtrxuone wrote:

swan42 wrote: We should not be railroaded into accepting a stand alone West Coast Eagles reserves team into the WAFL. The WAFC has no power to insist that the WAFL clubs vote for that 10th team.

This is the last chance we have to ensure that the WAFL remains with some integrity.

Let's go back to the situation where the players stay at their original club when drafted and ES players are allocated in a reverse draft. If the Eagles don't like that proposal the players don't play in the WAFL. Simple as that.

Swan 42.Didn't the Wafc say the alignments are happening,thats final.Are you worried the 10 the team will drop the standard of footy.

Firstly the WAFL clubs not the WAFC have the power to agree or to veto a 10th team in the WAFL.

As for my reasons against the 10th team are as follows:

(i) where would the additional players come form to provide 22 players to play in the 10th team or if the Eagles only have 10 players they will play with 10 players?

(ii) who do the reserves and colts players from the WAFL club play when the league team is playing the 10th team?

(iii) would the matches be played for points? Would the 10th team be eligible to play in the finals?

(iv) what about the history of the WAFL.. Why should we trash it?

(1)]Look to Sanfl..Crows have top up players.Ammos,country.Not a issue
(2) Crows don't have a ressies or colts.No problem
(3) crows paly for points.Unfortunatly they haven't been any good to win a game.
(4) Let's bring back North fremantle and midland junction

Chaddy,

All that equates to that it is not working, its a shambles and is a ripper example of why I don't agree with the stand alone teams. Eventually when the player well runs dry due to injury, there will be fat blokes around 140+kj playing WAFL footy. If that happens thats when I buy 300 dozen eggs and throw them at the WAFC head quarter front doors.

Hope the WAFL clubs refuse WCE stand alone entry as they did 5 years ago.
Maybe they could go play in the VFL and the WAFL can retain some integrity

Eagles and Freo should both get stand alone teams.

This would leave 11 teams playing the other 10 teams twice for 20 weeks of footy and no stupid byes or fixtures.

However the Eagles and Dockers would be playing in an alternative Competition. Something like The Chevron Cup.

When Perth for example play South Freo they would be playing for WAFL Premiership points. When Perth play against The Eagles they would be playing for Chevron Cup points.

This would see the 9 WAFL teams play the other 8 WAFL teams twice for a 16 round season and a top 5.

Their other 4 games would be played in the Chevron Cup. 2 against the Eagles and 2 against the Dockers.

You can see from the above that the 2 AFL teams would also get their 20 games 18 against the 9 WAFL teams and 2 against the other AFL affiliated team.

The beauty here is that all 9 WAFL and the 2 AFL teams now get 20 games (two at each others home deck) and because they're in different competitions the integrity of the WAFL is not infringed by allowing AFL affiliated teams to win the WAFL Premiership.

Big prizes for winning the Chevron Cup.

Top up players for both AFL teams to come from players 28 years of age and above.

Leedy wrote:

chaddy22 wrote:

swan42 wrote:

gtrxuone wrote:

swan42 wrote: We should not be railroaded into accepting a stand alone West Coast Eagles reserves team into the WAFL. The WAFC has no power to insist that the WAFL clubs vote for that 10th team.

This is the last chance we have to ensure that the WAFL remains with some integrity.

Let's go back to the situation where the players stay at their original club when drafted and ES players are allocated in a reverse draft. If the Eagles don't like that proposal the players don't play in the WAFL. Simple as that.

Swan 42.Didn't the Wafc say the alignments are happening,thats final.Are you worried the 10 the team will drop the standard of footy.

Firstly the WAFL clubs not the WAFC have the power to agree or to veto a 10th team in the WAFL.

As for my reasons against the 10th team are as follows:

(i) where would the additional players come form to provide 22 players to play in the 10th team or if the Eagles only have 10 players they will play with 10 players?

(ii) who do the reserves and colts players from the WAFL club play when the league team is playing the 10th team?

(iii) would the matches be played for points? Would the 10th team be eligible to play in the finals?

(iv) what about the history of the WAFL.. Why should we trash it?

(1)]Look to Sanfl..Crows have top up players.Ammos,country.Not a issue
(2) Crows don't have a ressies or colts.No problem
(3) crows paly for points.Unfortunatly they haven't been any good to win a game.
(4) Let's bring back North fremantle and midland junction

Chaddy,

All that equates to that it is not working, its a shambles and is a ripper example of why I don't agree with the stand alone teams. Eventually when the player well runs dry due to injury, there will be fat blokes around 140+kj playing WAFL footy. If that happens thats when I buy 300 dozen eggs and throw them at the WAFC head quarter front doors.

Every team has a list of 60-65.i know a lot don't make the cut and they could be the top up players when the lists are finalised.

astro wrote: Hope the WAFL clubs refuse WCE stand alone entry as they did 5 years ago.
Maybe they could go play in the VFL and the WAFL can retain some integrity

Wafl clubs need money not integrity.Integrity won't save them.

GeeCess....initially everyone bagged East Perth for being part of the alignment..... they'll be too strong, the club will have access to the best training facilities etc (none of which was true).....now that they have pulled out they are still being bagged.

Members on here hated the thought of an alignment and a stand alone team was a definite no no....WTF.

Being a loyal royal I never agreed with the alignment and am more than happy that we have pulled out. I couldn't give a flying fk if we run last for the next 10 years as long as we get our team and club back. No teams should have to go through the sh!t we (the club) have been through since the inception of the alignment. Trust me, the alignment has not been pretty and definitely not a harmonious relationship between the 2 clubs. When the host club is told who to play, where to play and how long to play them for...there can only be growing angst.

The alignment has driven, players, members, volunteers, supporters and possibly sponsors away. I cant speak for Peel and Fremantle maybe they are happy.

Let West Coast have their own standalone team they will not be strong as has been shown in the last couple of years. They play kids that are just out of nappies (under 18's comp) and those that have had AFL experience playing in the WAFL have no way set the competition alight.

Go to a 10 team comp, let them recruit from the country leagues and ammo's (nationally) let them recruit ex AFL players (they're ex players because they are too old or no good)....let the current WAFL reserve and colts teams have the week off when they play the West Coast league team. Gets rid of the bye and hopefully would also fix the fixturing so that you don't end up playing the same team twice in the space of 4 weeks or so.

fair enough One Eyed.

TFAF there would still be byes in an 11 team competition the same as there is now. The only way to get rid of forced byes is in an even numbered team competition.