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Gavin Taylor the real WAFL supporters' thoughts 7 years 6 months ago #135502

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I thought I would start this topic predicated on the article containedin the link below:

thewest.com.au/sport/wafl/finals-eligibi...league-ng-b88608303z

I hope to be able to send the link to this topic to Gavin Taylor so whilst I hope there is a robust discussion it would be helpful if the following guidelines can be adhered to.

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Gavin Taylor the real WAFL supporters' thoughts 7 years 6 months ago #135508

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I hate the alignment but the 15 year domination by the one club that not only received a substantial compensation package to leave Subiaco Oval but also has had the ongoing luxury of 500 tickets to on sell and the full takings from the bar behind the 2 tier stand on top of that is every bit as bad in turning the WAFL into the farce it has become where even before EVERY season starts you already know it is going to be a Subiaco vs Aligned side GF and we have rarely been proven wrong!
At least with the alignment the WAFL clubs (unbelievably including Subiaco) have received some much needed extra funds to keep the clubs running and putting a side on the park each week but what have the other WAFL clubs received out of 1 clubs Subiaco's very cosy deal at Domain?
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It's hard for the Wafc to balance the interests of all partys.And from the outside looking in the new stadium deal doesn't look good for the Wafc.Not only do they lose the Eagles+Dockers rent from Subi Oval.But they are going to pay a premium for playing at Burswood.And the additional seats done make up the shortfall.
The Wafc like the Alignment because 2 Wafl clubs are bankrolled by the local AFL clubs.However Peel loading up with AFL players for the Wafl Finals.Needs to be similar to the Sanfl guidelines.
One of the biggest concerns I have is Football below the AFL Level.Tier 2 comps struggling.The once great Sunday League now gone.Country Leagues,Hills comps. WaaFL looks ok.
Afl recruitment of teenagers needs to be raised to age 21.This will put Wafl clubs in a stronger position to challenge Alignment sides and Subi.Raise the standard of the Wafl and that will put fans through the gate.And most importantly have players properly prepared for the AFL.

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Gavin Taylor the real WAFL supporters' thoughts 7 years 6 months ago #135519

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My view is this. The alignment is killing off any interest in the WAFL that remained. If the WAFC think its all going great and needs a minor tweak they are far removed from the 100% of the people I know that have an opinion on this. I still bristle at Worsfolds comments re the alignment - if it means the eagles improve 1% then its worth destroying the integrity of the WAFL to serve that purpose. Incredible.

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Gavin Taylor the real WAFL supporters' thoughts 7 years 6 months ago #135520

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Grassy wrote: You might hate the Alignment Bease,but your feelings towards Subi have sidetracked you and a few others away from the Main Problem,which of course is the Alignment or what I call the Host Club Scam!

Things were just fine in 2012,then guess who Barrelled in and changed things for the worst?!We might be getting money for them to hang around like the proverbial bad smell,but had they not been around,that money would have been going to us anyway and we wouldn't be copping the Bullshit games,Rich man,poor man act from the WAFC.

Then we could focus on Subi and their dominance.Now the WAFC are laughing,because their inaction over whatever Subi's alleged indiscretions are,have got a few distracted from the REAL problem now.

I.e. The Alignment or Host Club Scam.

Bingo.The WAFC again have got us Exactly where they wanted us!Divided and conquered!It's an inconvenience for them,there's been enough noise to at least force them to announce they'll look at the qualifying rules,but after letting the dust settle,they'll figure out a way to Bullshit and Bluster,after factoring in the AFL Clubs scripted opinions on this.

It won't happen unless by Miracle,the Entire WAFC Executive are removed.But removing the AFL Clubs from the WAFL is the main focus!

Can you as a good WAFL man,tell me what benefit the AFL Clubs have for us by hanging around the WAFL like the proverbial Foul Smell?Apart from the Shuddup money?!


Rubbish Subi supporters and a few others are trying to gloss over Subi's dominance by blaming the alignment, it may surprise you but I'm not in favor of the alignment but it is what it is obviously it needs to tweaked even more, the thing is ive moved on with the times this is what happens with progress.

Unfortunately for you you've been conned by the Subi supporters on here and their propaganda of blaming Peel, when in reality its their dominance that is holding the WAFL back, ffs its a 50/50 game tomorrow and this is with the 15 listed Freo players, their better '' fitness'' world class facilities now why is it that Subi can compete with this monster that is Peel , what you need to do is get rid of the conspiracy theories about the AFL and wake up and smell the coffee.

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How can Mr Taylor seriously believe the qualification model for aligned players is "just about right" as per today's article in the West Australian? If he thinks it's ok for a team to finish 7 games adrift of the top side and 4 of the second placed then smash both in the finals due to an influx of full time professionals then he's delusional and appears to be justifying decisions he made this time last year after the 2016 GF fiasco. At the very least aligned players should have played more WAFL than AFL during the year to be considered for finals...it's a no brainer for most but obviously not for some.

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BC wrote: How can Mr Taylor seriously believe the qualification model for aligned players is "just about right" as per today's article in the West Australian? If he thinks it's ok for a team to finish 7 games adrift of the top side and 4 of the second placed then smash both in the finals due to an influx of full time professionals then he's delusional and appears to be justifying decisions he made this time last year after the 2016 GF fiasco. At the very least aligned players should have played more WAFL than AFL during the year to be considered for finals...it's a no brainer for most but obviously not for some.


but why is your club able to compete with this powerhouse that is Peel and other WAFL clubs can't, under the same salary cap and points system.

it was only a few years ago you beat the EP aligned side, only one WAFL club that's capable of doing that eh.

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Grassy wrote: Great Management!


Cool no problem with the alignment then, just need all WAFL clubs to copy Subi's management systems and the comp will be fixed.

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Peter North wrote:

BC wrote: How can Mr Taylor seriously believe the qualification model for aligned players is "just about right" as per today's article in the West Australian? If he thinks it's ok for a team to finish 7 games adrift of the top side and 4 of the second placed then smash both in the finals due to an influx of full time professionals then he's delusional and appears to be justifying decisions he made this time last year after the 2016 GF fiasco. At the very least aligned players should have played more WAFL than AFL during the year to be considered for finals...it's a no brainer for most but obviously not for some.


but why is your club able to compete with this powerhouse that is Peel and other WAFL clubs can't, under the same salary cap and points system.

it was only a few years ago you beat the EP aligned side, only one WAFL club that's capable of doing that eh.


Subi operates under the same points system and salary cap as the other 6 non-aligned clubs. As John Townsend correctly pointed out in his article the other week Subi had 63 points on the ground in the 2nd Semi whilst Peel had 188 or thereabouts. Subi's salary cap is around $250k whilst the team which represented Peel that day earns approx. $2.5m. Where is the fairness in that and if Subi can't compete, how the hell are teams like Perth supposed to?
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BC wrote:

Peter North wrote:

BC wrote: How can Mr Taylor seriously believe the qualification model for aligned players is "just about right" as per today's article in the West Australian? If he thinks it's ok for a team to finish 7 games adrift of the top side and 4 of the second placed then smash both in the finals due to an influx of full time professionals then he's delusional and appears to be justifying decisions he made this time last year after the 2016 GF fiasco. At the very least aligned players should have played more WAFL than AFL during the year to be considered for finals...it's a no brainer for most but obviously not for some.


but why is your club able to compete with this powerhouse that is Peel and other WAFL clubs can't, under the same salary cap and points system.

it was only a few years ago you beat the EP aligned side, only one WAFL club that's capable of doing that eh.


Subi operates under the same points system and salary cap as the other 6 non-aligned clubs. As John Townsend correctly pointed out in his article the other week Subi had 63 points on the ground in the 2nd Semi whilst Peel had 188 or thereabouts. Subi's salary cap is around $250k whilst the team which represented Peel that day earns approx. $2.5m. Where is the fairness in that and if Subi can't compete, how the hell are teams like Perth supposed to?


Yeah I get all that but why is the power house that is Peel only a 50/50 chance to beat a little old WAFL club like Subi, surely with all their advantages it should be a no contest.

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