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BC wrote:

Peter North wrote:

BC wrote: How can Mr Taylor seriously believe the qualification model for aligned players is "just about right" as per today's article in the West Australian? If he thinks it's ok for a team to finish 7 games adrift of the top side and 4 of the second placed then smash both in the finals due to an influx of full time professionals then he's delusional and appears to be justifying decisions he made this time last year after the 2016 GF fiasco. At the very least aligned players should have played more WAFL than AFL during the year to be considered for finals...it's a no brainer for most but obviously not for some.

but why is your club able to compete with this powerhouse that is Peel and other WAFL clubs can't, under the same salary cap and points system.

it was only a few years ago you beat the EP aligned side, only one WAFL club that's capable of doing that eh.

Subi operates under the same points system and salary cap as the other 6 non-aligned clubs. As John Townsend correctly pointed out in his article the other week Subi had 63 points on the ground in the 2nd Semi whilst Peel had 188 or thereabouts. Subi's salary cap is around $250k whilst the team which represented Peel that day earns approx. $2.5m. Where is the fairness in that and if Subi can't compete, how the hell are teams like Perth supposed to?

So you guys then since only as far back as 2013 go out and recruit from the other WAFL clubs the likes of-

Twomey, Robinson, Nelson, Daniels (SD)
Lockyer, Baker, Latham, McPhee, Yarran, Stockley (WP)
Litherland, Powell (CL)
Adamson, Perkins, McKenzie (EP)
Matera, Sokol, Fimmano (SF)
Ryan, Menegola, Hancock (EF)
Kayler-Thompson, McDougall, Polak (PE)
Yarran, Herring (PT)

...plus many others from Interstate whilst only losing Hampson & Le Fanu to the other G6 clubs in return and having bugger all players taken in the AFL draft unlike the poor old G6 clubs as well..
Just to make the other WAFL clubs tough task up against the aligned sides and Subiaco a mission impossible...wake up and smell the coffee BC your mob is as much to blame as the alignment in turning the comp into a one (or 2) sided farce!

Peter North wrote: Yeah I get all that but why is the power house that is Peel only a 50/50 chance to beat a little old WAFL club like Subi, surely with all their advantages it should be a no contest.

50/50 .......... hmmm?

The bookies see it rather differently

Sportsbet $1.54 - $2.48
Just Betting $1.50 - $2.61
Ladbrokes $1.53 - $2.50
etc etc etc

I would suggest the only reason Subi are in with even a chance is that they are a very good WAFL club, while Peelmantle is a shit (W)AFL club.

jackspratt wrote:

Peter North wrote: Yeah I get all that but why is the power house that is Peel only a 50/50 chance to beat a little old WAFL club like Subi, surely with all their advantages it should be a no contest.

50/50 .......... hmmm?

The bookies see it rather differently

Sportsbet $1.54 - $2.48
Just Betting $1.50 - $2.61
Ladbrokes $1.53 - $2.50
etc etc etc

I would suggest the only reason Subi are in with even a chance is that they are a very good WAFL club, while Peelmantle is a shit (W)AFL club.

Yeah that's why I've tipped Subi by six goals on a nice day , but with the weather tomorrow it's 50/50 imo.

Got it pretty right hey?? Yep all you need to do now is boost 5 clubs maybe 6, sf to a lesser extent, then you will have a comp people will want to watch

Swan42 -Just heard the New State Government had agreed to pay the Wafc 10 Million a year.For 10 years as a compensation deal for being out of pocket.With the new Stadium. Has to be good news for Wa Footy.
The previous state government promised Wa Footy. Would be out of pocket with the new stadium deal.A mess left by the previous state government.

There you go gtr now they have plenty of $ to inject into the clubs

Beasley Hutton wrote:

BC wrote:

Peter North wrote:

BC wrote: How can Mr Taylor seriously believe the qualification model for aligned players is "just about right" as per today's article in the West Australian? If he thinks it's ok for a team to finish 7 games adrift of the top side and 4 of the second placed then smash both in the finals due to an influx of full time professionals then he's delusional and appears to be justifying decisions he made this time last year after the 2016 GF fiasco. At the very least aligned players should have played more WAFL than AFL during the year to be considered for finals...it's a no brainer for most but obviously not for some.

but why is your club able to compete with this powerhouse that is Peel and other WAFL clubs can't, under the same salary cap and points system.

it was only a few years ago you beat the EP aligned side, only one WAFL club that's capable of doing that eh.

Subi operates under the same points system and salary cap as the other 6 non-aligned clubs. As John Townsend correctly pointed out in his article the other week Subi had 63 points on the ground in the 2nd Semi whilst Peel had 188 or thereabouts. Subi's salary cap is around $250k whilst the team which represented Peel that day earns approx. $2.5m. Where is the fairness in that and if Subi can't compete, how the hell are teams like Perth supposed to?

So you guys then since only as far back as 2013 go out and recruit from the other WAFL clubs the likes of-

Twomey, Robinson, Nelson, Daniels (SD)
Lockyer, Baker, Latham, McPhee, Yarran, Stockley (WP)
Litherland, Powell (CL)
Adamson, Perkins, McKenzie (EP)
Matera, Sokol, Fimmano (SF)
Ryan, Menegola, Hancock (EF)
Kayler-Thompson, McDougall, Polak (PE)
Yarran, Herring (PT)

...plus many others from Interstate whilst only losing Hampson & Le Fanu to the other G6 clubs in return and having bugger all players taken in the AFL draft unlike the poor old G6 clubs as well..
Just to make the other WAFL clubs tough task up against the aligned sides and Subiaco a mission impossible...wake up and smell the coffee BC your mob is as much to blame as the alignment in turning the comp into a one (or 2) sided farce!

So BH who did you poach Twomey and Robbo from during your halcyon financial days?? they moved because they wanted to play finals and get paid for playing footy.

Latham, Stockley, Yarran & Mcphee couldn't get regular league games. Same for Matera, Sokol & Fimmano, Ryan was playing up in Gero not with EF even though it's their district so blame EF for not getting him in their squad, Yarran was playing ams or country footy so was not a Peel player and Herring was a borderline player. Says more about Subi's ability to identify talent I would have thought.

Have no doubt that most of that 10million will go to womens footy ....I thought WA was broke?....be interesting to see Taylors take on "just right" if Subi win tomorrow.....nothing will change....the thing is Subi arent any other G7 club.....all the other clubs are skint and Subi arent...not Subis fault...but limiting Peel to 11 players come finals time will only benefit Subi and perhaps SF TBH...

Senior Seagull wrote:

Beasley Hutton wrote:

BC wrote:

Peter North wrote:

BC wrote: How can Mr Taylor seriously believe the qualification model for aligned players is "just about right" as per today's article in the West Australian? If he thinks it's ok for a team to finish 7 games adrift of the top side and 4 of the second placed then smash both in the finals due to an influx of full time professionals then he's delusional and appears to be justifying decisions he made this time last year after the 2016 GF fiasco. At the very least aligned players should have played more WAFL than AFL during the year to be considered for finals...it's a no brainer for most but obviously not for some.

but why is your club able to compete with this powerhouse that is Peel and other WAFL clubs can't, under the same salary cap and points system.

it was only a few years ago you beat the EP aligned side, only one WAFL club that's capable of doing that eh.

Subi operates under the same points system and salary cap as the other 6 non-aligned clubs. As John Townsend correctly pointed out in his article the other week Subi had 63 points on the ground in the 2nd Semi whilst Peel had 188 or thereabouts. Subi's salary cap is around $250k whilst the team which represented Peel that day earns approx. $2.5m. Where is the fairness in that and if Subi can't compete, how the hell are teams like Perth supposed to?

So you guys then since only as far back as 2013 go out and recruit from the other WAFL clubs the likes of-

Twomey, Robinson, Nelson, Daniels (SD)
Lockyer, Baker, Latham, McPhee, Yarran, Stockley (WP)
Litherland, Powell (CL)
Adamson, Perkins, McKenzie (EP)
Matera, Sokol, Fimmano (SF)
Ryan, Menegola, Hancock (EF)
Kayler-Thompson, McDougall, Polak (PE)
Yarran, Herring (PT)

...plus many others from Interstate whilst only losing Hampson & Le Fanu to the other G6 clubs in return and having bugger all players taken in the AFL draft unlike the poor old G6 clubs as well..
Just to make the other WAFL clubs tough task up against the aligned sides and Subiaco a mission impossible...wake up and smell the coffee BC your mob is as much to blame as the alignment in turning the comp into a one (or 2) sided farce!

So BH who did you poach Twomey and Robbo from during your halcyon financial days?? they moved because they wanted to play finals and get paid for playing footy.

Latham, Stockley, Yarran & Mcphee couldn't get regular league games. Same for Matera, Sokol & Fimmano, Ryan was playing up in Gero not with EF even though it's their district so blame EF for not getting him in their squad, Yarran was playing ams or country footy so was not a Peel player and Herring was a borderline player. Says more about Subi's ability to identify talent I would have thought.

SS boys like Matera, Sokol, Fimmano, Daniels, Nelson, Baker, Polak, Latham et al were only raw 19 or 20yo's and had only had a taster of Senior footy and were some of each clubs most promising young players when you blokes came a knocking espousing delusions of grandeur no doubts about how they could get them drafted by moving to Subi or to play in a successful League side every week.
Interesting to see all bar ex WA 18s star Baker & Sokol have been named in the RESERVES side for Subiaco tomorrow!
So it would seem all you managed to do was stockpile talent in your Reserves side whilst in the mean time also hurting your opposition's already limited playing strength!

BH: for me all the recruitting of the senior players in 2013 was justified because of the alignment. We need to keep in mind that we were underdogs in that grand final, certainly not expectted to win, inspite of the side we had on the park.

I agree with you on the recruitment of the younger players

Finally, the vagaries of the alignment are such that Subiaco has not been affectted by it at all. Who did we lose? Dom Sheed? The other clubs have lost large parts of their team, which, of course, has creatted a greater imbalance in the competition.

When the senior players retire-- both local Subi and the recruits we will come back to the field. Unless we recruit we will never beat an alignment team fillled AFL players in the finals. That fact, the inferiority to the alignment clubs in the finals, will be the future of every WAFL club.