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That's some food for thought BH.

Amazing stuff JD ..I see you conveniently didn't include the AFL listed country boys games numbers for the season seeing as tho they have been developed well enough by their WAFL club to go to the next level and those at host clubs WART & FART.
I wonder when the likes of Ansey, Wilson, McKay, Shaw, Hackett, Watson, Gillard, Adams (if not all drafted) et al become League regulars in the next season will you come back and repeat these percentages also not forgetting young Maguire did his knee in the last practice game how dare he not get a senior game this season and those other boys straight out of Colts footy getting only a taste of League footy.
Which club apparently didn't use an interstate recruit this year and please don't say Peel?, as Stevenson fom P is originally from Horsham but of course you would have known that being all over these things!!
And if you are suggesting Swans deliberately do not give their country boys a go I would suggest you are barking up the wrong tree as if you are good enough to play League footy you will get a game at Swans regardless of whether you are a city or country lad as fast tracking our young talent has been a major kpi within the club but I dare say you already knew that about us as well.

Pretty sure one of Cl country AFL listed boys won a Brownlow this year.....but no doubt BH will find something to beat that with one of his SD juniors........

Considering Cl colts won the GF pretty convincingly I reckon a bucket load will be pushing for league honours in 2016 too......so I'll be interested to see those percentages as well.......

Always great to see folk locked in a passionate discussion.....though it is easy to see which one of the two is being more black n white objective and less black n white subjective in this discussion......eh BH?

Beasley Hutton wrote: Amazing stuff JD ..I see you conveniently didn't include the AFL listed country boys games numbers for the season seeing as tho they have been developed well enough by their WAFL club to go to the next level and those at host clubs WART & FART.

Please. You're struggling now. Of course they weren't included. Should I include all country kids that were drafted to the AFL but were playing SANFL, VFL, NEAFL during 2015? Or should all players who have played CFES games now be categorised as country kids because they played a WAFL game on a country ground?

Although I am entertained by the fact that you think the only WAFL club that had AFL listed country kids playing at host clubs was Swan Districts, are you thoughts always so insular?

Beasley Hutton wrote: I wonder when the likes of Ansey, Wilson, McKay, Shaw, Hackett, Watson, Gillard, Adams (if not all drafted) et al become League regulars in the next season will you come back and repeat these percentages

So you are saying there were limited numbers of country colts in the past and that is why we see low numbers in the current league squad? Of course that is not true. Why have kids not stayed at Swan Districts in the past (serious question that I have no answer for and would like possible reasons from those near the club that could help all country kids around WA)

Beasley Hutton wrote: also not forgetting young Maguire did his knee in the last practice game how dare he not get a senior game this season

I didn't include him in the original list now did I? Also not sure how to include him in games played when he had no games played. Again entertained by the fact you are so insular to think Swan Districts were the only club where country kids were injured?

Beasley Hutton wrote: And if you are suggesting Swans deliberately do not give their country boys a go I would suggest you are barking up the wrong tree as if you are good enough to play League footy you will get a game at Swans regardless of whether you are a city or country lad as fast tracking our young talent has been a major kpi within the club but I dare say you already knew that about us as well.

I am suggesting some clubs need to do more to promote country kids through to WAFL league. Some need to have a higher focus on development by spending more time in country areas. Some should do more to help them adjust to city living. Some need to do more to help and train officials at country clubs.

As freezin said the best player in the country at the moment is from country WA. Last years best player was originally from Manjimup, or country WA. The Coleman medallist is from country WA. The AFL Rising Star is from country WA. WA had four kids in the All Australian team, three are from country WA.

Some clubs have seen how rich their country zone is and are working to help them fulfil their AFL dreams while making their club better in the process. Others have taken the easy way out and wait for the players to drop in their laps at training.

A normal non defensive logical thinking supporter would look at those figures I have provided and checked to see if their club is getting the best out of their country zone. Some may even have the courage to ask their club officials if they have been doing all they can and others will ask if they can help out themselves.

You can continue to beat your chest, ignore the data and get defensive like Leedy , Cardy and other West Perth supporters did when I tried to educate them on my clubs problems. I can see you are the type of person that for some reason will not admit you are wrong on an anonymous internet forum but I sincerely hope you are the type of person that will ask questions. Country football and country kids needs all the help it can get.

JD now by no doubt you are discovering the hard way what all of us posting here over the years have grown to realise. SD are the only club in the competition who do everything spot on - please do not say anything against them as a club or your character will be assacinated. Swans are the powerhouse club of the WAFL we must all strive to be as successful as them. Remember that whatever you come up with Swans are better - keep this rule in mind and you will have a good life.

Your posts are excellent reading JD62. Please don't let a few turkeys stop you from contributing.

JD out of interest why have you not added this years AFL games tally for country boys from each WAFL club and also how many are listed from each WAFL club? I have listed the Swans boys for you already all you have to do is add up their AFL games tally's along with those from the other 8 WA clubs.
I have never suggested Swans are the greatest unlike the 2 buffoons posted above have said I bought into this argument at JDs ridiculous statement to MO that Swans were one of the worst at producing country talent which is far from the case when taking into account how many are not just apart of a WAFL squad but have actually been good enough to have been drafted into the elite national competition.
It would actually make for interesting reading.......

Wafl clubs are for every kid in a zone - metro and country.
Why can't people just be happy kids are getting a game of footy at their local club, Most wafl clubs do a good job so focus on the positives.
Never an easy gig for kids to move to the city and some will stay and some will go but I don't know if a wafl club that doesn't have an open door to a country kid in their zone.
JD is having a cry about WP and acting like the world has ended, move on.

MarkOlsen wrote: Wafl clubs are for every kid in a zone - metro and country.
Why can't people just be happy kids are getting a game of footy at their local club, Most wafl clubs do a good job so focus on the positives.
Never an easy gig for kids to move to the city and some will stay and some will go but I don't know if a wafl club that doesn't have an open door to a country kid in their zone.

According to JD if you are from the country you should be playing WAFL League footy at your zoned club regardless of whether you are ready, in good enough form and or are good enough full stop MO.
And yes JD I am the type of person who asks a lot of questions of our football department and know a fair bit more about what is happening at my club then most in this regard maybe you should also have a chat to Messrs Smart, Harding, Cooper, Johnson, Thompson et al if you have serious concerns with how Swans have been developing our local junior talent from both country and city!

Chopper wrote: JD now by no doubt you are discovering the hard way what all of us posting here over the years have grown to realise. SD are the only club in the competition who do everything spot on - please do not say anything against them as a club or your character will be assacinated. Swans are the powerhouse club of the WAFL we must all strive to be as successful as them. Remember that whatever you come up with Swans are better - keep this rule in mind and you will have a good life.

58shark wrote: Your posts are excellent reading JD62. Please don't let a few turkeys stop you from contributing.

Thank you so much for your support gentleman. Believe me I will keep fighting for country football as long as there is air in my lungs. These two aren't the first I've come across in my years that have refused to look outside the city limits and unfortunately won't be the last.

I know I have the reputation in country football circles for pushing and promoting the bush beyond what others are comfortable with but I don't really care. If I see or hear about a region being ignored I will speak up. If pointing out that their beloved club may have flaws distresses some people then so be it. As I said before most people would look upon this as a step to improve their club. Only an imbecile would ignore the overwhelming evidence their club is harvesting 80-85% of their natural resource instead of making their team stronger by harvesting the full 100%.

Some people may think the numbers don't speak for themselves but believe me the bush telegraph still works and we all hear what some WAFL clubs do and what other clubs neglect. We hear which clubs regularly attend country games on a Sunday and which clubs find it too hard to work two days in a row. We hear which clubs have accommodated country families during the underage carnival this fortnight with BBQ dinners and get togethers for country parents. We hear which clubs supply a steady stream of equipment and training. We hear who do extra work in school holidays and who pretend to not know the school holiday schedule ( not mentioning any guilty team on this website Chopper ).

Now I've been rude to my daughter enough tonight by ignoring her and using her internet (also drinking her red wine!). I'll be busy with a grandsons birthday tomorrow so Swan Districts and West Perth supporters can misconstrue and distort my comments as much as they like (just as they have tonight). I'm sure I have stirred one or two to GENUINELY ask their club officials why other WAFL clubs continue to reap the benefits of the bush!