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I am not sure who said the racial comments where warranted.

If WC received 3 red cards in a single game, confronted spectators at the end of a game and were responsible for 2 broken jaws throughout the season then yes, I would be questioning their position in the competition.

If a racial comment was made by a WC supporter then I am sure that WC will deal with it. Do not however this isolated incident from a member of WC's peanut gallery distract you away from Kelmscott's case of epidemic thuggery.

It was the reserves side that that where being vile not just a spectator but still u think its ok doe u truley are a fk wit

Seems to me there are 2 completely seperate issues that need dealing with here

Firstly the 3 red cards in one game is totally unacceptable at any level and unfortunately is a black mark against the Kelmscott player group, the club and coach, I have heard plenty of stories regarding Kelmscott over the years however I must say I have not experienced any major issues in the times I have played against them, that said the club should be disciplined for these actions

Secondly racial vilification is unacceptable and should be acted upon, I have seen many racial tauts over the years that have never been cited, but the question must be asked why are the comments relating to aboriginal people the only comments that raise the eyebrows, it is no different to harassing someone over hair colour, body odour, weight or a multitude of other factors
Adam Goodes and the AFL have blown all this out of proportion

S train - or is that Strain..... I also don't condone racial vilification, and if that happened and it can be proven then I also agree that the book should be thrown at that person. however going across and confronting the said person was only going to end up with 1 result, a fight. Surely good leaders at your club could have dealt with this better.

However 1 think you cant defend Strain is the indefensible. Your club is always in the news for the wrong reasons, hence people in the community think bad things of your club. For years we have had shit on here about Kelmscott paid players and got caught, Kelmscott players are in fights and getting suspended, Kelmscott is a club that doesn't look after its locals, Kelmscott is a club that bends the rules to get sides on the park etc. we have heard it all.......And you know the one constant through all that time. The people running Kelmscott have not changed, and they have continued to deny they have done anything wrong......

That's why people don't speak nicely about your club, not because there Muppets, because through everything Kelmscott has always played the who me card and blamed others rather than looking internally......

took the words out of my mouth PH

Needs an entire overhaul to change the poor culture.

Let's get the facts right PH. Kelmscott have won back to back C 1 and B Grade flags and just made the finals in A Grade. Not many clubs in WAAFL history have done that. They did it with virtually the same team so there is absolutely no way there could be a bad culture at the club and also it is impossible to achieve that with un disciplined team. The sort of spirit that they have is probably why the players confronted the crowd , racial vilification needs to be confronted.
The club is extremely well run by good people you don't get success if it is not and Kelmscott have by far the best facilities in A Grade ,though that is not hard as most A grade clubs have poor facilities . Poorly run clubs that are too disorganised to get facilities at their traditional home move 2 suburbs away change their name and colours throwing away all the clubs hard earned heritage don't they premiership hangover.

sbelly wrote: Let's get the facts right PH. Kelmscott have won back to back C 1 and B Grade flags and just made the finals in A Grade. Not many clubs in WAAFL history have done that. They did it with virtually the same team so there is absolutely no way there could be a bad culture at the club and also it is impossible to achieve that with un disciplined team. The sort of spirit that they have is probably why the players confronted the crowd , racial vilification needs to be confronted.
The club is extremely well run by good people you don't get success if it is not and Kelmscott have by far the best facilities in A Grade ,though that is not hard as most A grade clubs have poor facilities . Poorly run clubs that are too disorganised to get facilities at their traditional home move 2 suburbs away change their name and colours throwing away all the clubs hard earned heritage don't they premiership hangover.

What more can I add pretty much hit the tail on the head at our club we don't c colours we see people

As for the money thing yes kelmscott got caught paying players fuel vouchers, we happened tk be the scape goat for majority of the clubs from c grade upwards I know many of players from almost every a grade club that has talked about payment to players at their clubs and as low as c4 it might be the the high and mighty money clubs that need a look internally

sbelly i could start a club tomorrow and win every grade from C4 to A Grade if my means is by paying players and spending more than anyone else by a big margin. So what Kelmy have achieved really isnt that great. I read a while back they have 16 of their premeirship players still playing so they must a tight knit bunch i reckon i would hang around to if i am getting paid more there than anyone else is offering. You can attract Steven dodd but you cant attract anyone to play ressies and you reckon you dont have a culture problem. You have a bloke that wants to play for you that has come from the AFL but you cant even keep your battlers. The percentage of clubs paying players now is huge and we all know that but when all your club stands for is we will get success by buying more than everyone else in that grade that is a club going no where long term. All that money you have thrown away in the last three years for two little cups could have gone towards slowly building a C Grade club into developing players and attracting players the right way. Yeah you might not have won any flags but you will be in a better position for the future and probably a lot more respected which clearly by the public opinion your club isnt right now.

Isn't Steven Dodd from down that way? I'm very happily to be corrected but i think kelmscott might be his home-Junior club and if that's true, Instead of bagging him out for playing there how about we congratulate him for going back to his root (again happily to be corrected)

I am a neutral reading all this

The Facts are;

- 3 Red Cards = Disgrace, the league should take action against the club and or coach.

- Racial Abuse is no longer tolerated under any circumstance. Stop using the Red Cards as justification. Sort out the idiots who said it.

- Kelmscott has been caught paying players.

- YOU ARE KIDDING YOURSELVES IS YOU DONT THINK ALL THE A GRADE CLUBS DONT PAY PLAYERS!!!!! $1,000 a week in the country would be hard to turn down if you didn't get paid in Perth.

- ALL A GRADE CLUBS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED AND AUDITED BY AN INDEPENDANT AUDITOR EVERY YEAR!!!!!

- Kelmscott sadly do have the best facilities in A Grade so it makes you wonder where all the other A Grade clubs spend their money!!!!!

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