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Just a quick question. What would be the average attendance for a match?

It costs about 15k to put a one team club out there for a season and that’s only to play the games doesn’t include council fees - ground hire, room hire etc

If you read the article closely it stems from Victoria and refers to Vic comps.

I wish it cost only 15k to put a team on the park each year.

By the time you pay team registration, coach, trainers, umpires, medical, electricity, player insurance, cleaning, postage, internet, security, license fees, subsidise the presentation night, match awards, rates, lease fees, bar and kitchen wages and a whole lot of other things, its a TRUCKLOAD more that that.

Given that the end figure includes such things as bar and kitchen purchases, my Club spends 40-50k per team per year - without paying players.

Birdman wrote: I wish it cost only 15k to put a team on the park each year.

By the time you pay team registration, coach, trainers, umpires, medical, electricity, player insurance, cleaning, postage, internet, security, license fees, subsidise the presentation night, match awards, rates, lease fees, bar and kitchen wages and a whole lot of other things, its a TRUCKLOAD more that that.

Given that the end figure includes such things as bar and kitchen purchases, my Club spends 40-50k per team per year - without paying players.

Wow, what is your main revenue stream to pay for it all? Sponsors, bar takings, player match payment fees?

If you could not do a bar trade, I don’t think any club could stay cash positive. No doubt 50-80% of sponsorship would be on hold or in doubt, particularly bar/tavern types which are normally the major one.
Clubs would have not have collected fees and it will be a struggle to do so going forward this year.
It would be impossible to control crowd numbers for clubs as well.
If no bar income, then we would be better off starting again next season.
I still can’t see us playing this year is social distances are going to be place for 6 months.

amongst all the budget issues raised above, what most people have forgotten about would be the extra costs to clubs for cleaning. Change rooms would need to be cleaned and disinfected every time they are used.

Im not sure if councils would do this and pass the costs onto clubs or if clubs do it pay for it themselves and provide records to councils when asked for them.

Either way, for clubs that have training 4 - 5 nights per week and have their change rooms used both Saturday and Sunday this would become a huge cost for clubs to bear.

Hi Ammos,
I can't speak for all, but what i can say with absolute clarity is i am involved with a club who's players are keen as to get back on the park.

Financial constrains aside, in regard to the virus i dont think anybody expect's the footy to be cleaned with antiseptic after each disposal so i dont think changerooms will need washdowns after each use.

Perspective needs to be applied in going fwd.
If ok for AFL to have a valid season when each club playing each other once (with premiership) I struggle to see why ammos including with relegation/promotion cannot also do the same.

As it should be it will come down to the medical/govt advice.

Stinker wrote: Hi Ammos,
I can't speak for all, but what i can say with absolute clarity is i am involved with a club who's players are keen as to get back on the park.

Financial constrains aside, in regard to the virus i dont think anybody expect's the footy to be cleaned with antiseptic after each disposal so i dont think changerooms will need washdowns after each use.

Perspective needs to be applied in going fwd.
If ok for AFL to have a valid season when each club playing each other once (with premiership) I struggle to see why ammos including with relegation/promotion cannot also do the same.

As it should be it will come down to the medical/govt advice.

Stinker,
Usually love your contributions but I am afraid you have had one of your namesakes here.

I do agree players will be chomping at the bit to play in 2020, but we as an community sporting participant would need to consider what is best for the whole of the community. Sometimes you need to save the players from themselves...you can't guarantee everyone at your club or another would be doing the right thing in any situation, so during a global pandemic extra caution would be needed.

Clubs will struggle to run if they cannot open their bar facilities as pointed out yesterday in Government advice, it may not be till September till Bars and clubs will be open, so I doubt there would be any leeway for community sports in doing so if the local bar cannot.
Sponsors would have cut back spending, I doubt whether club uniforms, insurance or Umpires would come for free either, so will be a challenge financially for sure, I agree.
Change rooms being cleaning, disinfected and scrubbed down after use, is a NO BRAINER, needs to happen, without a doubt that would be the biggest risk.

If we look at the competition as a whole, I know a few who would love to play every weekend, MrM can see it, but what about those who don't wish to play or those are to afraid to speak up about non playing due to stigma surrounding there refusal to play. I'm sure the comments of "Come on mate, don't we a weak so-so would be uttered.
Clubs may be fielding under-strength teams, clubs may even pull teams from the competition due to low numbers.
If we can get out 9 rounds of footbalI, MrM would have no problem with a premiership or even a ladder winner flag being awarded...as for relegation and promotion, it may be difficult, perhaps a 1 up 1 down model could be looked at.

Another thought is, clearances Australia wide, country football, interstate football. Logistically it is too hard for MrM to delve into.

I don't think you could award an premiership on a 9 round season. It would mean nothing and it would not be fair to let clubs go up and down.
I agree that clubs would not be fielding there best sides in 2020. Colts would be a very hard prospect to get up mid season.
Financially is a cluster_uck. You get hit this season and then again next season with the sponsorship. The club I am involved with has rolled all of the sponsors into the 2021 season already so you have to spread one sponsorship year money into two years.Then you have to hope that the sponsor can still support you as they may be on hard times with all this crap. Even if there were no WAAFL affiliation fees, you would still not stay cash positive.
Having been involved in ammos for over 20 years, clubs would be better off with a fresh start in 2021.
Not the best, but its only way forward i think for clubs to survive.