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Cardy - for the sake of putting my 2 cents worth in -

What makes your view sacrosanct above all others...???

Take a second - step back and play devils advocate on your own posts - You appear to be stating your view is superior to all others and that if others differ they are somehow less informed??

Surly this forum should be based for mutual banter, with a little humour thrown in the mix rather than exclusion, one up man ship and god forbid condescension

Your bigger than that I would like to think, as are well all I would like to hope

Now I'll duck -

Clear-View wrote: Next year will be great. 7 clubs will have the stability that will allow their teams to grow and develop whilst the other 2 will have more talent but greater instability.

Yeah it will be great to see all the talent they grow and develop - move across to one of the host clubs the following season only to them play against their old clubs!

Should be great I can't wait.

Cardy wrote: Christ I know you are Swans supporters and want to think you won the game on merit by 6 points... Gee most other clubs recently have beaten them by a few more.. You miss the point entirely. You had Embley in which I was told didnt make a difference even though he had 24 disposals.. Peel were down to 1 on the Bench from half time. Considering this it equates to Fremantle took any advantage off them and considering the margin they would of most probably won the game..

It has also Made Perths and EF chances harder as you got a free 4 points giving you a game advantage.. Now I would of loved to have seen
Perth,EF and SD on 36 points and may the best man win but due to Fremantle playing games SD have got a get out of Jail card... And on top of that with your draw of CLA,EF,CLA you would not of been in the four

I know it is like telling a dead head Labor Voter that the party is not good and we need a new government to sort out the mess but like that arguement I certainly wont convince you of anything different so lets leave it there guys... See you in the last REAL round of WAFL footy at Basso..

Cardy you have not got one thing right in that 1st paragraph so stop embarrassing yourself talking about a game you obviously did not see! For starters Bennell soccered the winning goal not Embley, Peel had 2 on the bench not 1, Embley might have had 24 possesions according to the stats but would not have been in Swans best dozen players. I think maybe you should just comment on games you actually watched rather than use a Worst report of the game as being the gospel as those of us that were there are recognising you are making a fool of yourself or it is a very lame attempt at stirring!

Only going on what I read and what was said on Radio about a lot of dissension at Peel over the Fremantle decision.

My argument is not who kicked the Final goal and that is totally irrelevant.

Gee Russell Reid must of got it all wrong. It appears I have maybe hit close to home looking at the Attacks by the Swans players when my topic was the Alignment. Read the first few posts and you will see I dont begrudge SD the points albeit they were more than likely gained by a Fremantle decision in withdrawing a player and making Peel play short.

Viv Michie limped off the ground midway through the second quarter with an ankle injury while his Fremantle teammate Jesse Crichton took no part in the second half.

It is believed Crichton was withdrawn because he is on standby to replace an injured Fremantle player for tomorrow’s clash with Greater Western Sydney at Patersons Stadium.

Trailing by 30 points in the opening minutes of the last quarter, Peel rallied to snatch the lead before Embley finished calmly to set up Swans’ 14.16 (100) to 14.10 (94) victory

e.g

Embley goal snatches win for Swans

au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl...tches-win-for-swans/

no different to Swans losing to East Perth by 2 goals a few weeks back after losing Simmo in the 1st 5 minutes and Faulkner before half time..
happens to every side..
and if you were not at the game then you wouldnt have a clue what went on..

injuries happen to everyone ..

Yep, it will be a complete debacle next year with the full introduction of the aligned clubs. West Coast and Fremantle will not pay any heed to the integrity of the competition as a whole, they will just concern themselves with the AFL teams. The big losers here are the WAFL supporters. This is the legacy of Dorrington and the system he foisted on the WAFL as his parting gift.
Cardy is correct - it will not be a genuine comp next year and I am so disappointed.

Falcon Magic wrote: Yep, it will be a complete debacle next year with the full introduction of the aligned clubs. West Coast and Fremantle will not pay any heed to the integrity of the competition as a whole, they will just concern themselves with the AFL teams. The big losers here are the WAFL supporters. The is the legacy of Dorrington and the system he foisted on the WAFL as his parting gift.
Cardy is correct - it will not be a genuine comp next year and I am so disappointed.

Without going to much into it here I have read some interesting articles re Sports Law and restraint of players etc under the Trade Practices Act.
I am sure there has to be some breaches especially considering the way Freo and Eagles have restricted playing time on players and its consequences to the host club.

Ok it will all be gone next year as no more host clubs except the 2 who have chosen to take this path because of their financial and club problems.

The Alignment ,as much as some think differently, will make a mockery of the WAFL (oops maybe not WAFL as we will no longer be the WEST AUSTRALIAN football league)

Maybe AFLWA will come into it? Fits in with the QAFL/NTAFL who are both current.

Swandog wrote:

Cardy wrote: Christ I know you are Swans supporters and want to think you won the game on merit by 6 points... Gee most other clubs recently have beaten them by a few more.. You miss the point entirely. You had Embley in which I was told didnt make a difference even though he had 24 disposals.. Peel were down to 1 on the Bench from half time. Considering this it equates to Fremantle took any advantage off them and considering the margin they would of most probably won the game..

It has also Made Perths and EF chances harder as you got a free 4 points giving you a game advantage.. Now I would of loved to have seen
Perth,EF and SD on 36 points and may the best man win but due to Fremantle playing games SD have got a get out of Jail card... And on top of that with your draw of CLA,EF,CLA you would not of been in the four

I know it is like telling a dead head Labor Voter that the party is not good and we need a new government to sort out the mess but like that arguement I certainly wont convince you of anything different so lets leave it there guys... See you in the last REAL round of WAFL footy at Basso..

Hahah Cardy mate I think you must be on the Bourbon tonite as you are speaking utter shit!! Whats this crap about a free 4 pts??? We are 3rd on merit mate and that's without help from the maggots on Saturday too! Good luck in the 2nd semi mate as your mob will need it..and remember Swans are the only side to shellack them (Claremont) this year (Subi beat them but not convincingly) and that was as BH pointed out when Newman left early, and you only fell in v Peel at Rushton Park yourself. Don't get ahead of yourself as it will bite you on the arse! Oh and I can hear the excuses re-injuries this week already if you happen to lose to East Frem, in fact I have heard them already from Leedy!!

Now that I have been dragged into this conversation, I will put my two bobs worth in. With the likes of Pettigrew, VanBerlo, Jones, Tedesco, Rassmussen and Johnson out of our line up for a lengthy period, I was only stating the obvious that we may not go into the finals with winning momentum, we may win the last two, who knows, SD chances of beating us will have grown dont you reckon Swandog ?

We have been able to answer the critics at every stumble this year and I will back us in, to do it again to round out the regular season. I am that confident about our flag chances this year because no one else rates us, big mistake ! On the other hand, SD are right up there as flag favourites as far as the critics are concerned, those are the same critics that you SD people bag the shit out of week to week.

At the end of the day, although your last game v CL was a ripper win, it counts for shit this week end as your form has been shit house since that game and your rated on current form not what you did 5 weeks ago !

Cardy wrote:

Clear-View wrote: Next year will be great. 7 clubs will have the stability that will allow their teams to grow and develop whilst the other 2 will have more talent but greater instability.

CLear view I suggest you put your wipers on. I have heard this theory thrown around and just wont happen. WP will lose Hutchings and Mellington who have played a lot of WAFL games and that is only 2 out of the 7 clubs. EF and Cla will be hit hard
Now a lot of these guys wont hit the AFL next year and will continue to play consistant WAFL footy. Their skills are match winning and they wouldnt of been drafted in the first place if they were middle of the road footballers or just WAFL standard and that is the rest.

Without appearing sarcastic I suggest you are living in a dream world. Has anyone made a list up of Current WAFL players with AFL contracts who will be playing in these TWO sides next year? And that does not take into account Key players comming back from injury for a run.

The only possible benefit will be the WAFL players who are disallusioned moving to WAFL clubs but they wont be the cream of the crop BECAUSE PEEL AND EP will keep their key players to make up the numbers under contract and I suggest as the Salary cap will not include the AFL players the payments to these players will be paid a bit more than the Average to top line WAFL players in other clubs..

Food for thought... But we will see.. But I am sure my views are correct. The bottom line is IT SHOULDNT OF HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE and we are feeling the effects already this year 2013 and the alignment hasnt even started.

Cardy I can understand that you're not happy with the alignment but your post appears very short sighted and narrow minded.

How many WP players have been drafted by WCE or Freo in the last 4 years?

I'm pretty sure the answer is one, Jack Darling.

Yes you will lose Mellington and Hutchings next year if they stay on current AFL lists but they are not WP products. Hutchings is EP/StK and Mellington is a vic.

So based on the last 4 years of drafting you will lose 1 WP player under the new alignment for the next 4 years. Hardly an impact at all.

The total amount of WAFL players taken in the National and preseason drafts by WCE & Freo over the last 4 years is 16. That equates to less than 1/2 a player per club per year, with EF 4, Clare 3 and Perth 3 being the main contributors of players.

So whilst there will be quite a bit of player movement in year 1 the subsequent years will see very minimal change.

It's also important to consider the welfare of the draftee. Why should WCE and Freo draftees be disadvantaged by having to spend time at clubs that have no link to AFL clubs. Shouldn't they be given every chance to succeed by having more contact with football specialist at AFL clubs?

Leedy wrote:

Swandog wrote:

Cardy wrote: Christ I know you are Swans supporters and want to think you won the game on merit by 6 points... Gee most other clubs recently have beaten them by a few more.. You miss the point entirely. You had Embley in which I was told didnt make a difference even though he had 24 disposals.. Peel were down to 1 on the Bench from half time. Considering this it equates to Fremantle took any advantage off them and considering the margin they would of most probably won the game..

It has also Made Perths and EF chances harder as you got a free 4 points giving you a game advantage.. Now I would of loved to have seen
Perth,EF and SD on 36 points and may the best man win but due to Fremantle playing games SD have got a get out of Jail card... And on top of that with your draw of CLA,EF,CLA you would not of been in the four

I know it is like telling a dead head Labor Voter that the party is not good and we need a new government to sort out the mess but like that arguement I certainly wont convince you of anything different so lets leave it there guys... See you in the last REAL round of WAFL footy at Basso..

Hahah Cardy mate I think you must be on the Bourbon tonite as you are speaking utter shit!! Whats this crap about a free 4 pts??? We are 3rd on merit mate and that's without help from the maggots on Saturday too! Good luck in the 2nd semi mate as your mob will need it..and remember Swans are the only side to shellack them (Claremont) this year (Subi beat them but not convincingly) and that was as BH pointed out when Newman left early, and you only fell in v Peel at Rushton Park yourself. Don't get ahead of yourself as it will bite you on the arse! Oh and I can hear the excuses re-injuries this week already if you happen to lose to East Frem, in fact I have heard them already from Leedy!!

Now that I have been dragged into this conversation, I will put my two bobs worth in. With the likes of Pettigrew, VanBerlo, Jones, Tedesco, Rassmussen and Johnson out of our line up for a lengthy period, I was only stating the obvious that we may not go into the finals with winning momentum, we may win the last two, who knows, SD chances of beating us will have grown dont you reckon Swandog ?

We have been able to answer the critics at every stumble this year and I will back us in, to do it again to round out the regular season. I am that confident about our flag chances this year because no one else rates us, big mistake ! On the other hand, SD are right up there as flag favourites as far as the critics are concerned, those are the same critics that you SD people bag the shit out of week to week.

At the end of the day, although your last game v CL was a ripper win, it counts for shit this week end as your form has been shit house since that game and your rated on current form not what you did 5 weeks ago !

Ahahaha anybody got a limerick!! Eye yeye yeye yeye...