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BC wrote: can anyone pin point the period in time when it all went so wrong for WI cricket? has it been a gradual thing or was there a defining moment?

I can't believe they're so bad now after the halcyon days of the 80's etc.

Gradual decline, but geez they look like a bunch of pathetic losers don’t they???

Reckon some of a top A grade sides would give them a run for their money…totally pathetic & for most part, their players look disinterested at best...

Swandog: agree 100 per cent
BH: Darren Bravo would have got into the 1980s side. Gomes batted three and he was solid, nothing special; Augustine Logie batted six and he was below test standard.

I still maintain that if Australia had of held its catches in 1984-5 they would have won the series.

no way Bravo is a better bat than Gomes!!....

BC wrote: can anyone pin point the period in time when it all went so wrong for WI cricket? has it been a gradual thing or was there a defining moment?

I can't believe they're so bad now after the halcyon days of the 80's etc.

I have heard that parr of the decline can be attributed to cable TV being available in the West Indies and the subsequent influence of NBA basketballon cable

Freeze: Gomes batted well in Australia and England, but in the WI itself it was a different story. He scored barely a thousand test runs at home, a figure which includes two centuries against Simpson's weakened Australian side in 1978. If you take those two scores out he averaged 32.

Ark, with the likes of Greenidge, Haynes, Richards, Richardson and Lloyd in the team I can see why Gomes struggled to score many runs at home...probably didn't even get a bat most times, especially with the bowlers dismissing most sides for under 200 each innings. Gomes was a quiet accumulator, great foil for all the above more flamboyant batsmen....

Freezin wrote: Ark, with the likes of Greenidge, Haynes, Richards, Richardson and Lloyd in the team I can see why Gomes struggled to score many runs at home...probably didn't even get a bat most times, especially with the bowlers dismissing most sides for under 200 each innings. Gomes was a quiet accumulator, great foil for all the above more flamboyant batsmen....

I was at the WACA the day Gomes made 127 v Aust in 84/85 in a big partnership with Jeff Dujon who made 139, they batted most of the day but two great innings they were against Hogg, Rackeman, Alberman and Lawson

Swandog I remember the two innings very well.

Freeze -- maybe he preferred the air in Australia and England?

Freezin wrote: Ark, with the likes of Greenidge, Haynes, Richards, Richardson and Lloyd in the team I can see why Gomes struggled to score many runs at home...probably didn't even get a bat most times, especially with the bowlers dismissing most sides for under 200 each innings. Gomes was a quiet accumulator, great foil for all the above more flamboyant batsmen....

Gee's Larry Gomes used to be frustrating to us Aussie fans ...after being flamboyantly pummelled all over the park by the likes of Greenidge, Haynes, Richards, Richardson, Lloyd you used to think you bewdy we are FINALLY into the tail and then Gomes would graft out a decent knock and partnership with Dujon and then the tail and rub further salt into a gaping Australian wound!

I remember when Hayden score 360 odd and created a reord (i think?) at the waca, and everyone boned on about it. Serioulsy it was against Bangladesh, from that day on ( and i am a staunch test man) my interest is ony in Aussie v Poms and Aussie V Saffers. The rest is a bloody joke. Its like Hawthorm playing Cunderin THIRDS, and claiming a world record AFL score....SPARE ME