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my 2c on the goodes topic 9 years 8 months ago #75211

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fair point on workplace MO..but I'd be interested to see what happens if poeple continue do it..would they potentially be charged under racial vilification laws? if so, intention and the proving of mens rea does become an issue as they're not strict liability offences.

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my 2c on the goodes topic 9 years 8 months ago #75214

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if it continues after people have been asked not to do it then people are stupid, what they would be trying to achieve is beyond me.
if you are told that booing someone in their workplace is something they find offensive then you have to accept that and anyone that thinks that some of the people doing it arnt doing it due to race have their head in the sand, the Eagles supporter is proof of that.

and it means instead of talking about our great game and what happens on the field we are talking about this stuff.

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my 2c on the goodes topic 9 years 8 months ago #75215

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I wonder....... would a stadium of predominantly 40,000 indigenous spectators boo Adam Goodes EVERY time he touched or went near the ball ...... Hmmmmmm

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my 2c on the goodes topic 9 years 8 months ago #75217

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"At best it is bullying....at worst it is racism". Damien Hardwick

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my 2c on the goodes topic 9 years 8 months ago #75219

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What is disappointing, saddening even, is the stream of drivel that comes with the debate on whether to boo or not to boo Goodes. The range of lame excuses that are trotted out to somehow make the booing right are self-justification that always comes with the insistence that this “is in no way racial”.



Let’s call this what it is. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck.



Goodes wasn’t booed until he called out a 13-year-old girl in a 2013 game against Collingwood in Melbourne for racially abusing him over the fence. Goodes didn’t know how old the girl was when he heard the taunt but plenty have blamed him for her grief and discomfort afterwards.



Anti-Goodes sentiment intensified when he was named Australian of the Year in 2014 and made forthright comments about the obvious disadvantages his people faced.



He has been booed everywhere since. No, Garry Lyon, not just in Perth, but everywhere. This is and always has been racial. In the past few days it has become a cesspool of claim and denial, accusation and justification. Did I mention dogs and vomit?



Premiers are not immune. Colin Barnett says Aboriginal players should refrain from doing the dance Goodes did against Carlton in round nine, which Lewis Jetta did in support of him at Domain Stadium last Sunday. Barnett didn’t like the idea of Jetta and Goodes pretending to throw spears into the crowd. That is if it is a spear. One of my mates in Melbourne, who researched the dance after Goodes did it, says that when the Aboriginal junior team the Flying Boomerangs devised the dance a few years ago they were mimicking the throwing of boomerangs.



I suspect which of the two it is depends on who is doing the dance because they are not actually holding spears or boomerangs. It is a DANCE invented by a team of kids and they are just PRETENDING. To all the white folks out there who wish Aboriginals wouldn’t get offended by words despite all the injustices dealt their way over a couple of centuries, here’s a bit of advice: Don’t make a complete hypocrite of yourself by getting offended because an indigenous player dances a jig and pretends to throw a spear (or boomerang).

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my 2c on the goodes topic 9 years 8 months ago #75220

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Thanks Mark Duffield.

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my 2c on the goodes topic 9 years 8 months ago #75221

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What is gonna happen when the umpires start getting all sensitive about all the personal onfield abuse they get EVERY game.....pretty sure they get villified each week with little protection or interest from the Goodes dogooding brigade...gonna be a lot people getting frogmarched from games mid flow then....especially when an aboriginal ump makes the grade!.......why is Goodes getting all this concern and not the umps?.......

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my 2c on the goodes topic 9 years 8 months ago #75225

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Freezin wrote: What is gonna happen when the umpires start getting all sensitive about all the personal onfield abuse they get EVERY game.....pretty sure they get villified each week with little protection or interest from the Goodes dogooding brigade...gonna be a lot people getting frogmarched from games mid flow then....especially when an aboriginal ump makes the grade!.......why is Goodes getting all this concern and not the umps?.......


Thats addressed here, its pretty obvious the comparison is without merit.

To boo or not to boo has never really been the question. Good sports frown on booing. Sure, we expect a crowd to express disapproval of a high tackle, late hit or missed free kick. We know all umpires are blind, favourite players shouldn’t switch clubs and politicians are never welcome for presentations, so on some occasions the boos betray a hint of irony and add to the theatre. But we don’t boo and jeer champions — not when there is no obvious reason — and not week in and week out. That is why the crowd treatment of Adam Goodes has been so different — and ugly.

Twice Goodes has been awarded the Brownlow Medal as the AFL’s fairest and most brilliant player. Twice he has held aloft the premiership trophy. At the end of four seasons he has been named an All-Australian. If he runs on to the SCG on Saturday — as we still hope he may — he will play his 366th game. Only seven players in history will have played more games at the elite level and none with higher distinction. With six rounds and finals to go, AFL fans may be running out of chances to see this 35-year-old forward/midfielder in action. Neither this sporting legend nor the children in the crowds deserve to have these appearances marred by mean-spirited shows of disrespect.

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my 2c on the goodes topic 9 years 8 months ago #75226

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BC wrote: maybe you can explain to me why we sit back and marvel at Cyril Rioli, Sonny Walters, the Hill brothers just to name a few and cheer on their exploits but we boo Adam Goodes.


You keep going on the same , what about the others mantra?

Its been debunked that many times its not funny.

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my 2c on the goodes topic 9 years 8 months ago #75227

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Lol Bazza you keep posting quotes from certain people you do know that it doesn't make them true its their opinion nothing else , what makes them an authority on these issues.

Have you posted the quote from Mundine yet, now theres are real pearler that should back up your argument.

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