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Beasley Hutton wrote: Not much more to add mate you pretty much nailed it despite the mid match absence.
Yes Jumping Jack In The Box Joey has quite the cult following as does the big ginger #38 for EP who it must be said has to be the most appropriately named player of all time!

Agreed mate #38 for EP Redhead yeah in name and body...he can play too...awkward in his gangly frame but def one to watch for the future radar. Maybe Grump could tell us a little about him...I'll ask on an EP thread.

Joey didn't have as much impact as the first cupla games. Possibly copped a better match up this week...he is lightly framed and not blessed with height so will need to continue his goose stepping routine along with find some other tricks in his bag but gotta say he is exciting to watch. Not sure what type of engine he has which is something he will require if he is looking to progress to the highest level. Take note Joey the hard work must start now...don't rest on the natural talents, you will need a massive engine to rise above the pack

mikeh wrote:

Dirty Weekender wrote:

Dirty Weekender wrote: 8- Faulkner
7- Stewart
6 -Bennell
5- Ellard
4 -Noble
3- Notte
2 -Riggio
1- Gault

Honourable mentions to the rest of the team

I didn't wanna speculate with mikeh votes on the voting thread as this is SD talk whereas that is for votes so will do so here. Happy with your votes mikeh as it was clearly a team effort that got us across the line yesterday. Just wanted to discuss how I saw the match. One thing I will say is I thought EP played it well most of the day considering they hardly know each other on the footy field and probably only lost the match through a combination of a little last qtr lack of intent self preservation (ie zero care factor for the jumper) and secondly underestimating the fighting black & white spirit that lives within our guys who clearly are showing this year last year's disappointments have left a sting. You don't win like we did yesterday without having pride in yourself and your jumper, super effort to win from where we were at late in the game.

Ok, back to the best players on the day

I actually thought Kirk Ugle was by far our best yesterday despite a low stat count, his ability to disrupt EP forward attacks was so crucial in the eventual wash up. Taryce with 4 goals up forward was the reason we scored enough to win as EP's AFL defence had our measure for most of the day. Noble was also crucial as hit up forward who could actually win the ball or lock it down...exceptional game from him despite not hitting the scoreboard hard...Gault was solid around the ground again and is improving each week ...Bennell in defence early kept us in it and that mark over his old team mate is one of the best I've ever seen then to go back and slot the goal from 50 gave us the energy to go on and win it. Ellard worked his butt off again in close 9 tackles laid on the day. Faulkner was great around the ruckmen's feet as always. His ability to get the ball from hands around the rucks is uncanny and should never be underestimated, it's his best quality as a footballer. Riggs was slightly down on his usual high possession count but I thought when it really mattered in the last 10mins with the game there to be won he was brilliant, rose in intensity and was the one who led our pack to victory. Inspirational stuff. The others deserving of high praise to me were Banfield, Blight, Notte, Howard & Watson...I will mention Yukich as I thought his efforts in the ruck were fantastic around the ground...if he can find a way to impact the game in other ways besides the tap work he can be a regular league footballer. At this stage he will be important through the winter months thru the slog as a tap ruckman but we need more from him around the ground to provide some links forward. Gone are the days when a ruckman's only job is the tap out. Hope Troy gets there becuz I know he works extremely hard at his game. The rest of the team also played a significant part....there was a lot of tactical stuff thrown at us yesterday and roles needed to be played....well done to all 22 players who donned the jumper. Word is Tallen was heaving his guts up throughout the half time break hence his late start to the second half whilst ex AFL man the big X showed a ton of heart to play the game out after a heavy knock to the jaw and an ugly cut to the neck...take note fellow members and supporters if you weren't aware he had every right not to go back out there but he did, courageous stuff which has earned my respect as should it all of our respects.

And just for laughs I'm gonna out Jake Nuich here....that junk food you were tucking in to during the match yesterday was surely not part of the program diet

Good point DW about Ugle, like Banfield he does a lot of stuff to disrupt the opposition that probably goes under the radar a bit. Wouldn't agree that he was best but in hindsight I should have put him in the top 8. Really tough to single people out because it was a team effort and everyone contributed.[/quote]

No right or wrong in selecting your best mikeh....always subjective and the perfect reason we have a forum like this one to discuss our individual opinions and views of the game....always enjoy and appreciate your insight and evaluations...sometimes it also depends where you watch the game from around the ground....I was in the stand yesterday. First time I've ever sat up there and not froze my gonads off. I'd have had Faulks up there with Ugle yesterday except for 4-5 errant turnovers from kicking again. He is getting much better and is still 'my boy' but geez I wish he could eradicate these from his game. At least yesterday the turnovers came from longer kicks or kicks around corners and not from 20m chip kicks...solid game from Faulks despite these few missed targets. We are better when he is on the field, that's what really matters

Mike & DW it is harder than it looks having to choose the best 8 having done it last week I had to leave guys out who I know played well or did some great team stuff...it is not a bad thing we are all having trouble with the final 8 as last year we all would have had trouble filling it in some games hopefully it continues.

Dirty Weekender wrote:

mikeh wrote:

Dirty Weekender wrote:

Dirty Weekender wrote: 8- Faulkner
7- Stewart
6 -Bennell
5- Ellard
4 -Noble
3- Notte
2 -Riggio
1- Gault

Honourable mentions to the rest of the team

I didn't wanna speculate with mikeh votes on the voting thread as this is SD talk whereas that is for votes so will do so here. Happy with your votes mikeh as it was clearly a team effort that got us across the line yesterday. Just wanted to discuss how I saw the match. One thing I will say is I thought EP played it well most of the day considering they hardly know each other on the footy field and probably only lost the match through a combination of a little last qtr lack of intent self preservation (ie zero care factor for the jumper) and secondly underestimating the fighting black & white spirit that lives within our guys who clearly are showing this year last year's disappointments have left a sting. You don't win like we did yesterday without having pride in yourself and your jumper, super effort to win from where we were at late in the game.

Ok, back to the best players on the day

I actually thought Kirk Ugle was by far our best yesterday despite a low stat count, his ability to disrupt EP forward attacks was so crucial in the eventual wash up. Taryce with 4 goals up forward was the reason we scored enough to win as EP's AFL defence had our measure for most of the day. Noble was also crucial as hit up forward who could actually win the ball or lock it down...exceptional game from him despite not hitting the scoreboard hard...Gault was solid around the ground again and is improving each week ...Bennell in defence early kept us in it and that mark over his old team mate is one of the best I've ever seen then to go back and slot the goal from 50 gave us the energy to go on and win it. Ellard worked his butt off again in close 9 tackles laid on the day. Faulkner was great around the ruckmen's feet as always. His ability to get the ball from hands around the rucks is uncanny and should never be underestimated, it's his best quality as a footballer. Riggs was slightly down on his usual high possession count but I thought when it really mattered in the last 10mins with the game there to be won he was brilliant, rose in intensity and was the one who led our pack to victory. Inspirational stuff. The others deserving of high praise to me were Banfield, Blight, Notte, Howard & Watson...I will mention Yukich as I thought his efforts in the ruck were fantastic around the ground...if he can find a way to impact the game in other ways besides the tap work he can be a regular league footballer. At this stage he will be important through the winter months thru the slog as a tap ruckman but we need more from him around the ground to provide some links forward. Gone are the days when a ruckman's only job is the tap out. Hope Troy gets there becuz I know he works extremely hard at his game. The rest of the team also played a significant part....there was a lot of tactical stuff thrown at us yesterday and roles needed to be played....well done to all 22 players who donned the jumper. Word is Tallen was heaving his guts up throughout the half time break hence his late start to the second half whilst ex AFL man the big X showed a ton of heart to play the game out after a heavy knock to the jaw and an ugly cut to the neck...take note fellow members and supporters if you weren't aware he had every right not to go back out there but he did, courageous stuff which has earned my respect as should it all of our respects.

And just for laughs I'm gonna out Jake Nuich here....that junk food you were tucking in to during the match yesterday was surely not part of the program diet

Good point DW about Ugle, like Banfield he does a lot of stuff to disrupt the opposition that probably goes under the radar a bit. Wouldn't agree that he was best but in hindsight I should have put him in the top 8. Really tough to single people out because it was a team effort and everyone contributed.

No right or wrong in selecting your best mikeh....always subjective and the perfect reason we have a forum like this one to discuss our individual opinions and views of the game....always enjoy and appreciate your insight and evaluations...sometimes it also depends where you watch the game from around the ground....I was in the stand yesterday. First time I've ever sat up there and not froze my gonads off. I'd have had Faulks up there with Ugle yesterday except for 4-5 errant turnovers from kicking again. He is getting much better and is still 'my boy' but geez I wish he could eradicate these from his game. At least yesterday the turnovers came from longer kicks or kicks around corners and not from 20m chip kicks...solid game from Faulks despite these few missed targets. We are better when he is on the field, that's what really matters[/quote]

DW I will break my self-imposed exile (other than the BCG recommendations) on here and make a comment about Faulkner. Whilst we disagree about Faulkner and Coniglio for instance I think it is reasonable to comment on the work Faulkner does in and under at the base of the packs. He helped tremendously in our win yesterday. Once he realises that he needs to be play within the parameters of his abilities both he and the team will be much better for it.

4 wins out of 4 against a club that can only be described as a great day for the club and our players members and supporters and a sad day for the likes of Grump who I have the utmost sympathy for. It is also a very salient lesson for the Swans' board that there would be an open revolt if the club ever flirted with the idea of an alignment. And no there has never been any suggestion that I am aware of that the board would consider or countenance such an alignment.

Finally it is great to see the likes of Ellard, Gault and Bennell come back to the club and help our climb up the ladder. Quality players and quality people. Similarly for Crowley and Ellis who have also shown their character in the limited time they have been at the club thus far.

Well done to Swans, I thought that was our best performance of the year so far. The effort was there but when the game was on the line we made poor decisions. Lack of chemistry, desire or the bounce of the ball is open for debate. Riggio was your best in my opinion particularly when it counted. Quite happy with the Colts boys too against a good side.

congrats on the win boys.. 3/0...great start.....what position did EP play Bennell over the last few years?...seems to have grown a new lease of life, WAFL wise, back at SD....

Freezin wrote: congrats on the win boys.. 3/0...great start.....what position did EP play Bennell over the last few years?...seems to have grown a new lease of life, WAFL wise, back at SD....

Freezin it was patently clear and remains clear that when he came back from Victoria he wanted to be at Swans and not at East Perth. It was patently clear then and it was most assuredly clear yesterday.

42....if you are a good professional you do your job no matter the circumstances or scenario....surely the coin he was on would minimize any duress he may of been under playing at EP.....just interested in what position WCE had him in at EP

Freezin wrote: congrats on the win boys.. 3/0...great start.....what position did EP play Bennell over the last few years?...seems to have grown a new lease of life, WAFL wise, back at SD....

You have to see the mark Freeze...one of the biggest I've ever seen taken and over ex team mate Schofield...it was a monster of a mark and a game changer ....Bennell should have a new space program named after him he got that high... let's hope someone grabbed it on film

Dirty Weekender wrote:

Freezin wrote: congrats on the win boys.. 3/0...great start.....what position did EP play Bennell over the last few years?...seems to have grown a new lease of life, WAFL wise, back at SD....

You have to see the mark Freeze...one of the biggest I've ever seen taken and over ex team mate Schofield...it was a monster of a mark and a game changer ....Bennell should have a new space program named after him he got that high... let's hope someone grabbed it on film

DW made even better by nailing the goal.